Interesting research being done in the USA on hydrogen
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Interesting research being done in the USA on hydrogen storage:
http://www.tcetoday.com/latest%20news/2011/novembe...
It's only early lab chemistry, but if they can get this to work it could be a useful fuel carrier for hydrogen cars. It would require decanting of the depleted liquid back out of the car's fuel tank at the station, before refuelling with new fuel. However it is a stable liquid like petrol, and doesn't require several hundred bar pressure tanks like hydrogen gas would.
The bromine part of the fuel could be nasty stuff if released I would imagine, not sure if it's worse than all the aromatics in current hydrocarbon fuels we use today.
http://www.tcetoday.com/latest%20news/2011/novembe...
It's only early lab chemistry, but if they can get this to work it could be a useful fuel carrier for hydrogen cars. It would require decanting of the depleted liquid back out of the car's fuel tank at the station, before refuelling with new fuel. However it is a stable liquid like petrol, and doesn't require several hundred bar pressure tanks like hydrogen gas would.
The bromine part of the fuel could be nasty stuff if released I would imagine, not sure if it's worse than all the aromatics in current hydrocarbon fuels we use today.
SSBB said:
The bromine part of the fuel could be nasty stuff if released I would imagine, not sure if it's worse than all the aromatics in current hydrocarbon fuels we use today.
Boron not bromine. It would be quite a bit worse than hydrocarbons- even benzene you need a lot of exposure for long-term effects, whereas I'd imagine amine-boranes are actually pretty damn poisonous.Intresting but not a solution in its present form as it carries 5% by wieght of hydrogen if i'm reading it right
So put 100Kg of wonder fuel into car and you get 5Kg of hydrogen out and end up with 95Kg of liquid at the end which needs to be pumped out of the tank
But its a liquid so you can get the magic refillable factor so you can instantly refill your car to get that magic 50 mile range unless you fancy a 1000Kg fuel tank
So put 100Kg of wonder fuel into car and you get 5Kg of hydrogen out and end up with 95Kg of liquid at the end which needs to be pumped out of the tank
But its a liquid so you can get the magic refillable factor so you can instantly refill your car to get that magic 50 mile range unless you fancy a 1000Kg fuel tank
thinfourth2 said:
Intresting but not a solution in its present form as it carries 5% by wieght of hydrogen if i'm reading it right
So put 100Kg of wonder fuel into car and you get 5Kg of hydrogen out and end up with 95Kg of liquid at the end which needs to be pumped out of the tank
But its a liquid so you can get the magic refillable factor so you can instantly refill your car to get that magic 50 mile range unless you fancy a 1000Kg fuel tank
I'm a huge Hydrogren vehicle sceptic because of the energy cost of producing the gas itself as well as the properties of a fuel cell, but in fairness 5kg of Hydrogen gas is probably good for at least 200 miles, 100kg of fuel for 5kg is more than competitive with an equivalent 350 bar tank which is bulky, difficult to package and comes with all of the associated inconveniences of carrying around and using a very volatile gas at immense pressure.So put 100Kg of wonder fuel into car and you get 5Kg of hydrogen out and end up with 95Kg of liquid at the end which needs to be pumped out of the tank
But its a liquid so you can get the magic refillable factor so you can instantly refill your car to get that magic 50 mile range unless you fancy a 1000Kg fuel tank
I still think the Hydrogen car concept is fundamentally flawed, but this could make a hydrogen powered vehicle significantly more practical than it is now.
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