Discussion
It depends on a number if factors:
If you want to know, ask. Remember - the MEMBERS are the union, not the officials.
- Which union
- Whether the branch is linked to a single workplace
- Whether they fulfil any duties for the employer
If you want to know, ask. Remember - the MEMBERS are the union, not the officials.
Used to work as a self employed contractor (with one contract, oh the irony) for the GPMU print union as was.
All Branch Secretaries and Branch Officers were in paid positions - as were the officials and hierarchy at Head Office.
Very well paid positions, if memory serves me correctly. They were all full time union officials.
All Branch Secretaries and Branch Officers were in paid positions - as were the officials and hierarchy at Head Office.
Very well paid positions, if memory serves me correctly. They were all full time union officials.
Take a look around Guido's stuff on Nurse Pilgrim and her colleagues:
http://order-order.com/2011/04/18/do-you-know-a-nu...
http://order-order.com/2011/04/18/do-you-know-a-nu...
Someone I know is an elected Union official.
They originally worked for the Council and when they became a Union official (for the Council workers) they were paid at the wage they were already on. But it is paid for by the Council.
He said the reason they are not paid by the Union is because they would then become employees of the Union and it was important (for some reason) that they remain somewhat distant - rather than have the employer/employee relationship.
And to add - the person I know is on the original wage he was on, which was around £22,000 - he did mention that the Union wanted a set wage that they would top up (i.e if it was 25k the Council would pay 22 and the Union would pay 3k to make 25k) but he was against this as it could lead to people wanting that position due to higher pay.
Therefor elected officials are not paid by the Union but normal office staff are.
They originally worked for the Council and when they became a Union official (for the Council workers) they were paid at the wage they were already on. But it is paid for by the Council.
He said the reason they are not paid by the Union is because they would then become employees of the Union and it was important (for some reason) that they remain somewhat distant - rather than have the employer/employee relationship.
And to add - the person I know is on the original wage he was on, which was around £22,000 - he did mention that the Union wanted a set wage that they would top up (i.e if it was 25k the Council would pay 22 and the Union would pay 3k to make 25k) but he was against this as it could lead to people wanting that position due to higher pay.
Therefor elected officials are not paid by the Union but normal office staff are.
Edited by Mojooo on Friday 2nd December 17:20
Mojooo said:
Someone I know is an elected Union official.
They originally worked for the Council and when they became a Union official (for the Council workers) they were paid at the wage they were already on. But it is paid for by the Council.
He said the reason they are not paid by the Union is because they would then become employees of the Union and it was important (for some reason) that they remain somewhat distant - rather than have the employer/employee relationship.
And to add - the person I know is on the original wage he was on, which was around £22,000 - he did mention that the Union wanted a set wage that they would top up (i.e if it was 25k the Council would pay 22 and the Union would pay 3k to make 25k) but he was against this as it could lead to people wanting that position due to higher pay.
Therefor elected officials are not paid by the Union but normal office staff are.
Reading council did have the same setup but have stopped funding (or will be in the new year) the union reps now.They originally worked for the Council and when they became a Union official (for the Council workers) they were paid at the wage they were already on. But it is paid for by the Council.
He said the reason they are not paid by the Union is because they would then become employees of the Union and it was important (for some reason) that they remain somewhat distant - rather than have the employer/employee relationship.
And to add - the person I know is on the original wage he was on, which was around £22,000 - he did mention that the Union wanted a set wage that they would top up (i.e if it was 25k the Council would pay 22 and the Union would pay 3k to make 25k) but he was against this as it could lead to people wanting that position due to higher pay.
Therefor elected officials are not paid by the Union but normal office staff are.
They had 3 on the payroll and 1 was rumoured at nearly 50k a year.......
... and some more
order-order said:
Council is grateful that these costs have now been disclosed. However,members are appalled that in a time of budget reductions and austerity in the public sector Lambeth Council is paying £503,548 a year to subsidise trade union officials.
Magically becomesorder-order said:
Council is grateful that these costs have now been disclosed. However, members recognise that in a time of budget reductions and austerity in the public sector paying trade union officials is a cost effective way to deal with industrial relations in the workplace. Massive cuts, too far too fast, forced on Lambeth by the government have resulted in unprecedented staff changes and restructurings where unions play an important role in scrutinising job plans, making amendments and supporting individual members through life changing decisions. They also perform excellent work on health and safety and basic skills training at minimal cost to council.
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