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DSLiverpool

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15,656 posts

219 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I should know better but here goes:

Invested nicely, gains in last week as per the general market and gains today so far

Merkel saying the right things and so are the bankers (the big ones that have a spine)

I predict laughwobble the market will overall show a gain until 9/12 when it will either go higher or bomb and if it does go higher I predict it will bomb soon after as we are in deep sh!t and no amount of veneer will hide it short term

Thoughts on taking gains to 9/12 then pulling out to re-enter lower please (dont take the piss Im being serious)

RemainAllHoof

78,808 posts

299 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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What's happening on the 9th?

Did you just say the market will go up then down or down then up?

DSLiverpool

Original Poster:

15,656 posts

219 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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RemainAllHoof said:
What's happening on the 9th?

Did you just say the market will go up then down or down then up?
Big Euro leader meeting with path decision on Euro strategy - should make the market happy for a day or so

RemainAllHoof

78,808 posts

299 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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DSLiverpool said:
Big Euro leader meeting with path decision on Euro strategy - should make the market happy for a day or so
Problem is, some other announcement or data release before then might result in the market plummeting next week.

DSLiverpool

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15,656 posts

219 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I doubt it I think were on a mainly upward ride on the back of over optimism and hope !!! it may last another 300 points (5800) possibly a tad more BUT I then think reality will kick in with a vengence - anyone have an opinion ??

walm

10,632 posts

219 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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DSLiverpool said:
Big Euro leader meeting with path decision on Euro strategy - should make the market happy for a day or so
What if what they say doesn't make the market happy?
What if the market is ALREADY assuming good news?
We have just had one of the strongest 5 days runs in HISTORY. (Top 5 since 1950.)

If I were you, I would recognise that I was INCREDIBLY lucky and BANK IT.

Hyper10

432 posts

186 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Since the summer I've given up trying to reason this market. If it hits 5800, it's definite short until of course another initiative that drives the market up for a day. At some point it's going to go and go back to at least 5000.
Honestly if it goes to 5750 I'm short but before then not a hope as it hurts too much watching it senselessly tick up. The market in real terms should be 5000

Mermaid

21,492 posts

188 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Apart from the short effect bazooka's, what is the next big catalyst for stocks to move up?

Check out how indices have performed since 2000.

Cheib

24,576 posts

192 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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Mermaid said:
Apart from the short effect bazooka's, what is the next big catalyst for stocks to move up?

Check out how indices have performed since 2000.
Only thing left is euro equivalent of TARP and QE.

Personally I don't think that's coming. Merkel was pretty clear today that she wants wants the PIIGS to start delivering....which ain't gonna happen.

I think we'll test the lows again maybe not until the New Year though.

66comanche

2,369 posts

176 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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I think it is very rich at even 5500 and have gone short at about that this week, 5800 seems way overpriced, I think we'll see sub-5k in the next month.

Hyper10

432 posts

186 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Has anyone's view changed or any thoughts?

Mermaid

21,492 posts

188 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Hyper10 said:
Has anyone's view changed or any thoughts?
Don't underestimate the lure of the Xmas rally, Government manipulation, bazookas.

Tyson1980

712 posts

173 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Been trading for a few years. I'm out of everything...

2011 has been a st year for investing....Shorting on the otherhand wink

DSLiverpool

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15,656 posts

219 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Up 62 points as of 12.30 - lets see what happens when the USA kicks in

ringram

14,701 posts

265 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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edging higher to the 9th then a dump on the day.. buy the rumour sell the news..

as mentioned austerity does not equal growth... there is in effect fiscal union already, no ecb purchases for indolent governments and market discipline for those who think they can carry on as usual..

So what will the 9th achieve!? Nothing unless the ECB starts monetisation.

IMO biggrin

14-7

6,233 posts

208 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Dumped most of my shares last week for a tidy little profit. Thought I might as well sit on the cash until we see what the end of this week brings.

chris7676

2,685 posts

237 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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No one can say and there will be ups and downs, but it looks to me more like the end of 2008 than 2007 as lots of the stocks seem to turning. I wouldn't really bother about that particular date.
Btw, I do stay away from the news mainly for my own sanity, if not welfare, it's a very depressing circus of politicians and bankers.