Stupidity, or what's the fuss?
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Need to be in Berlin next weekend and Brussels Monday and Tuesday, so thinking of taking the Turbo (996) for a road trip: Madness or a walk in the park?
Not frightened to use the Porsche in any weather for local use, but it's a long way to have to crawl along in ice and snow!!!
Do I need snow chains or anything (legal), or are 4WD cars still exempt? (OK, a long time ago, but I haven't forgotten the originla Audi Quattro adverts!)
Not frightened to use the Porsche in any weather for local use, but it's a long way to have to crawl along in ice and snow!!!
Do I need snow chains or anything (legal), or are 4WD cars still exempt? (OK, a long time ago, but I haven't forgotten the originla Audi Quattro adverts!)
Ahahahah - snow chains, good luck fitting them.
In all seriousness, you can use snow socks, they work really well, and are easy to put on the Porsche.
Weather wise...snow/ice next week, I seriously doubt it! And continentals are much better at clearing the roads than we are if there was to be something.
Take it, use it...have lots of fun
In all seriousness, you can use snow socks, they work really well, and are easy to put on the Porsche.
Weather wise...snow/ice next week, I seriously doubt it! And continentals are much better at clearing the roads than we are if there was to be something.
Take it, use it...have lots of fun
MDahmen said:
sorry my bad, was mis-informed. Looks like in Germany winter tyres are only requiired if the road surface is slippery due to snow, ice or frost, but there is no actual date range that would require winte tyres. so should all be well as long as it is dry or alternatively not too cold
Well that sounds like a ridiculous and unenforceable bit of legislation to me then! Oops - temperature's just dropped to -5, better pull over, take the wheels with winter tyres off my roof rack and swap them over... LOLThink I'll take a chance and plead ignorance in my best pigeon Deutsch...
...and if it is cold and dry - perfect Turbo v-max weather
Wonder if the low temperatures will get me that elusive 9mph indicated... ?
kVA said:
Well that sounds like a ridiculous and unenforceable bit of legislation to me then! Oops - temperature's just dropped to -5, better pull over, take the wheels with winter tyres off my roof rack and swap them over... LOL
Think I'll take a chance and plead ignorance in my best pigeon Deutsch...
...and if it is cold and dry - perfect Turbo v-max weather
Wonder if the low temperatures will get me that elusive 9mph indicated... ?
sorry to go off topic but whats that cup holder contraption ? is it removable ? i could do with something like that if its not glued/bolted in Think I'll take a chance and plead ignorance in my best pigeon Deutsch...
...and if it is cold and dry - perfect Turbo v-max weather
Wonder if the low temperatures will get me that elusive 9mph indicated... ?
kVA said:
MDahmen said:
sorry my bad, was mis-informed. Looks like in Germany winter tyres are only requiired if the road surface is slippery due to snow, ice or frost, but there is no actual date range that would require winte tyres. so should all be well as long as it is dry or alternatively not too cold
Well that sounds like a ridiculous and unenforceable bit of legislation to me then! Oops - temperature's just dropped to -5, better pull over, take the wheels with winter tyres off my roof rack and swap them over... LOLThink I'll take a chance and plead ignorance in my best pigeon Deutsch...
...and if it is cold and dry - perfect Turbo v-max weather
Wonder if the low temperatures will get me that elusive 9mph indicated... ?
I drive a lot in Europe, sadly in a 3.5T rather than my Pork!
I recently drove fully loaded to Berlin having left the UK early morning and arriving in Berlin late afternoon. Lovely roads and in my van, flat out! Equally, last year on a trip to Budapest we took over 15 hours to drive 350 miles because of the weather and various accidents. Needless to say we gave up that night and found a hotel!
We drove back overnight from Berlin a few weeks ago which was fine apart from cars approaching very quickly from behind, speed can be deceptive at night in your mirror and you don't want to get it wrong in a slowish van!
I've been past Brussels loads of times although not Berlin - Brussels, so can't comment.
Would I do it in my 911, hell yeh I would if I could
Every time I go across the channel and down into Germany I always think......if only I had my car on this Autobahn
I recently drove fully loaded to Berlin having left the UK early morning and arriving in Berlin late afternoon. Lovely roads and in my van, flat out! Equally, last year on a trip to Budapest we took over 15 hours to drive 350 miles because of the weather and various accidents. Needless to say we gave up that night and found a hotel!
We drove back overnight from Berlin a few weeks ago which was fine apart from cars approaching very quickly from behind, speed can be deceptive at night in your mirror and you don't want to get it wrong in a slowish van!
I've been past Brussels loads of times although not Berlin - Brussels, so can't comment.
Would I do it in my 911, hell yeh I would if I could
Every time I go across the channel and down into Germany I always think......if only I had my car on this Autobahn
IMI A said:
kVA said:
MDahmen said:
sorry my bad, was mis-informed. Looks like in Germany winter tyres are only requiired if the road surface is slippery due to snow, ice or frost, but there is no actual date range that would require winte tyres. so should all be well as long as it is dry or alternatively not too cold
Well that sounds like a ridiculous and unenforceable bit of legislation to me then! Oops - temperature's just dropped to -5, better pull over, take the wheels with winter tyres off my roof rack and swap them over... LOLThink I'll take a chance and plead ignorance in my best pigeon Deutsch...
...and if it is cold and dry - perfect Turbo v-max weather
Wonder if the low temperatures will get me that elusive 9mph indicated... ?
So you need at least 205 dash for a true 200mph.
wtdoom said:
sorry to go off topic but whats that cup holder contraption ? is it removable ? i could do with something like that if its not glued/bolted in
£4.99 from Halfords, as I recall - or might have been A N Other motorists shop 
Just clips on to the vents, but looks as though it came with the car, with a grey interior - result!
kVA said:
Well that sounds like a ridiculous and unenforceable bit of legislation to me then! Oops - temperature's just dropped to -5, better pull over, take the wheels with winter tyres off my roof rack and swap them over... LOL
Like, no, like duh That's why they have winter tyres on their cars (lots of them on steelies) all winter! Just like I do. Big changeover day tomorrow (or next week if it's too cold to get out of bed)!Bert
IMI A said:
Also off topic anyone know if these standard cars speedos are accurate? I've has my stock 997t on a similar stretch showing an indicated 199 mph. Is this real or in reality am i really only doing 190mph? vmax guys probably know whats possible on a stock engine
My GPS was reading 186 mph I think (didn't really want to focus on the tiny lettering at that speed )It is illegal for a car's speedo to read slow, but it is legal for it to be up to 10% fast, so to allow for slight differences in tyre size (and wheel size, if people later upgrade their wheels), tyre wear and manufacturing tolerances, most manufacturers design them to read 4% fast. If your tyres are brand new (and you've upgraded a size - e.g. 295 30 18 is a smaller circumference than a 305 30 19) your speedo might be very close to accurate, but if you're on standard wheels with minimum tread, you could easily read 8 or 9% fast.
Winter tires are mandatory. Not by date but depending on road/weather conditions.
http://www.adac.de/infotestrat/reifen/winterreifen...
http://www.adac.de/infotestrat/reifen/winterreifen...
More on winter tyres in Germany Here
The fines dont look too harsh but a mate from Germany advises that their insurance wont pay out in full if they have a bump with summer tyres when they should be winter, I dont know if that applies to UK drivers with UK insurance, in any case have a good one.
The fines dont look too harsh but a mate from Germany advises that their insurance wont pay out in full if they have a bump with summer tyres when they should be winter, I dont know if that applies to UK drivers with UK insurance, in any case have a good one.
IMI A said:
Also off topic anyone know if these standard cars speedos are accurate? I've has my stock 997t on a similar stretch showing an indicated 199 mph. Is this real or in reality am i really only doing 190mph? vmax guys probably know whats possible on a stock engine
My 997 Turbo's speedo over-reads by 3MPH. At an indicated 40MPH it's GPS'd at 37, at indicated 186MPH, GPS'd 183.kVA said:
wtdoom said:
sorry to go off topic but whats that cup holder contraption ? is it removable ? i could do with something like that if its not glued/bolted in
£4.99 from Halfords, as I recall - or might have been A N Other motorists shop Just clips on to the vents, but looks as though it came with the car, with a grey interior - result!
Bugger... Just checked the 10-day forecast and it says light snow - when I need to be driving back!
Not bothered about the €40 fine, but it's the "may not permit you to continue driving" bit that would be a complete PITA (especially as I need to be in Brussels the next day)...
Hmmm... what to do?
Not bothered about the €40 fine, but it's the "may not permit you to continue driving" bit that would be a complete PITA (especially as I need to be in Brussels the next day)...
Hmmm... what to do?
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