Recommend me some MTB Tyres...
Recommend me some MTB Tyres...
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Theoldfm

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400 posts

216 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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I do quite a bit of night riding at this time of the year, all off road stuff through the woods etc and need some decent tyres as my current set are absolutely ccensoredp at this time of the year.

We were out for a ride on Thursday night and the trails we used to blitz down in the summer have now transformed into slimy toboggan runs that are sketchy to say the least on my 'hard pack' summer tyres.

Budget wise, I suppose £25-£30 max per wheel.

Ta! woohoo

andySC

1,386 posts

187 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Panaracer Fire XC Pro are great at this time of year. Not the lightest or fastest rolling tyre but they're cheap, very tough & have enough tread to get you out of the slop.

For something lighter & racier Schwalbe Nobby Nics are good. The sidewalls on these aren't as sturdy & they don't last anywhere near as long but still a good tyre.

I'd also put in some Slime innertubes. Last thing you want to be doing this time of year is having to stop & change a tube in the cold...they'll seal round thorns & the like with no problems. They're is a tiny weight penalty when using them but it's not a problem.

Edited by andySC on Saturday 3rd December 12:21

hurstg01

3,221 posts

272 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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I have Maxxis Advent - can't fault them!

nammynake

2,658 posts

202 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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The only thing people will agree on about tyres is that they can't agree. With the exception of a very few models half will say a tyre is crap, the other half will say it is epic. I think there are so many variables, tyre width, terrain, surface, riding style/speed etc etc that one persons favourite tyre will be someone else's nightmare. Sorry this doesn't help in the slightest. Trial and error is the only way you will ensure the best tyre for your circumstances.

curlie467

7,650 posts

230 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Just let it slide around, its fun!

blackburn

2,339 posts

227 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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hurstg01 said:
I have Maxxis Advent - can't fault them!
Advent? Is that the Christmas version of the Ardent?

a11y_m

1,861 posts

251 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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I've fitted winter-orintated tyres to one of my bikes for the first time - huge change in the way the bike rides. Draggy as hell on anything other than downward stuff, but the find incredible grip where you'd expect there not to be any.

Maxxis Swampthing 2.35 singleply - I've gone supertacky (42a) on the front and 60a on the back.

Of course, I can't wait for the trail conditions to improve as these are seriously draggy tyres!

JayHeal

265 posts

180 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Try Maxxis Medusa for cross country riding, well with in your budget.
Or Maxxis Swampthing for down hill riding.
Best place to buy is www.chainreactioncycles.com

a11y_m

1,861 posts

251 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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bigtomski

379 posts

225 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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I had the same thing you described on my regular rides, everything getting very sketchy.
Just got some Bontrager Mud X tyres and the difference is like night and day!
Highly recommended.

shalmaneser

6,426 posts

224 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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andySC said:
Panaracer Fire XC Pro are great at this time of year. Not the lightest or fastest rolling tyre but they're cheap, very tough & have enough tread to get you out of the slop.

For something lighter & racier Schwalbe Nobby Nics are good. The sidewalls on these aren't as sturdy & they don't last anywhere near as long but still a good tyre.

I'd also put in some Slime innertubes. Last thing you want to be doing this time of year is having to stop & change a tube in the cold...they'll seal round thorns & the like with no problems. They're is a tiny weight penalty when using them but it's not a problem.

Edited by andySC on Saturday 3rd December 12:21
Sorry but I disagree on nearly all counts...the Fire XC is an alright summer tyre but has far too densely packed knobs for muddy conditions. Maybe you were referring to the Panaracer Trailraker which is an excellent mud tyre - probably one of the best available.

I'm currently running Schwalbe Dirty Dans which I've been quite impressed with, much faster rolling than Trailrakers and almost as grippy.

Nobby Nics are OK but do get out of their depth in gloopy mud.

csampo

237 posts

224 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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This time of year, XC, on unsurfaced trails? Maxxis Medusa are the best I've tried. They feel like a lightweight, low-grip version of the Wet Scream (the Maxxis DH spike). This means surprising levels of mechanical grip and then very predictable drifting. I personally prefer them to single ply swamp things for XC as their narrow width allows them to cut in well.

DH bikes are a different case altogether and tyre choice will vary from day to day and track to track through the winter. Spikes are untouchable when it gets real slick, however, and any talk of them being 'hopeless' on roots is total nonsense smile

smack

9,773 posts

220 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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a11y_m said:
Just used these guys, good price and fast delivery.

As for tyres at this time of year, if it is wet/muddy I put a mud tyre on the back, and an agressive xc tyre on the front. But it all depends on your local conditions, as some places are more sandy or rocky, so you can use the same tyres all year round. While other places are sticky mud pools once it is wintertime, and not worth bothering riding.

Theoldfm

Original Poster:

400 posts

216 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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csampo said:
This time of year, XC, on unsurfaced trails? Maxxis Medusa are the best I've tried. They feel like a lightweight, low-grip version of the Wet Scream (the Maxxis DH spike). This means surprising levels of mechanical grip and then very predictable drifting. I personally prefer them to single ply swamp things for XC as their narrow width allows them to cut in well.

DH bikes are a different case altogether and tyre choice will vary from day to day and track to track through the winter. Spikes are untouchable when it gets real slick, however, and any talk of them being 'hopeless' on roots is total nonsense smile
That sounds spot on, the only thing is that the description for these is as follows:

•Inspired by our professional European cross country racers for racing on muddy terrain. Small profile is lightweight and cuts through loose terrain, while the spiked tread pattern works to find traction through the mud. The widely spaced tread pattern resists packing by shedding mud and loose, damp soil. The Medusa performs well in mud and the low profile also makes it an excellent choice for lighter riders.

As I am about 14.5stone and usually ride on a 2.1 tyre - won't these be too narrow and be prone to pinch puctures?

shalmaneser

6,426 posts

224 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Theoldfm said:
That sounds spot on, the only thing is that the description for these is as follows:

•Inspired by our professional European cross country racers for racing on muddy terrain. Small profile is lightweight and cuts through loose terrain, while the spiked tread pattern works to find traction through the mud. The widely spaced tread pattern resists packing by shedding mud and loose, damp soil. The Medusa performs well in mud and the low profile also makes it an excellent choice for lighter riders.

As I am about 14.5stone and usually ride on a 2.1 tyre - won't these be too narrow and be prone to pinch puctures?
The Medusa is an excellent tyre. You'll find that most mud tyres are narrow, to allow them to cut through the mud effectively, hence pinch punctures can be an issue as you'll want low tyre pressures to increase your grip.

Having said that you'll probably be riding slower anyway, but it might be worth looking at going tubeless which will entirely remove the risk of pinch flats along with a number of other benefits.

Chris Sideways

433 posts

281 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Mud X every time roll nicely on the road and grip like a leech in the mud,and the narrower the better when riding in mud,I went out the other night and one of my mates couldn't wait to show me his new winter tires hugely wide and £50 each well his front end was all over the place and had nowhere as
much grip on the steep muddy up hills as I had and when we got on the tarmac i couldn't believe how much slower he was he said it was like riding with 2 flat tires smilethink the narrow tire digs through the soft mud on top to grip the dryer mud below.

Edited by Chris Sideways on Monday 5th December 22:37

bigtomski

379 posts

225 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Chris Sideways said:
Mud X every time roll nicely on the road and grip like a leech in the mud,and the narrower the better when riding in mud,I went out the other night and one of my mates couldn't wait to show me his new winter tires hugely wide and £50 each well his front end was all over the place and had nowhere as
much grip on the steep muddy up hills as I had and when we got on the tarmac i couldn't believe how much slower he was he said it was like riding with 2 flat tires smilethink the narrow tire digs through the soft mud on top to grip the dryer mud below.

Edited by Chris Sideways on Monday 5th December 22:37
Spot on!

Silver940

3,967 posts

256 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Just ordered a Continental Vertical 26x2.3 for 14 quid. Was dubious because they seemed cheap but the reviewers seemed to only have good things to say so thought I'd give it a go. Gotta be better than my almost slick rear tyre in the mud!

Minnsy

415 posts

296 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I have just taken off my Panaracer Fire XC, and put some Mountain king 2.4's on (as they came as origional equipment on my Orange). Initially did not get on with them at all, however lowering the tyre pressure signifcantly, and suddenly they work...so don't underestimate the importance of playing around with the pressures you are running.

With conditions as they are, I want consistancy. I don't want the tyres/bike to suddenly breakaway. I like to slide around in the mud as much as the next muppet, however prefer to do it on my terms!

Have fun....

BOR

5,144 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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So what pressure did you end up with ?