Caribbean Cuisine: Not Good Enough?
Caribbean Cuisine: Not Good Enough?
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Glassman

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24,889 posts

243 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Chinese, Indian, Thai are the obvious ones. Then you have Italian, Turkish, Greek etc etc... They're all doing well and are generally quite liked.

But what is it about Caribbean cuisine? Not very popular is it?

I've had the Jerk Chicken, Jerk Pork, Ackee and Salt Fish, Talapia, Snapper, Callaloo, Guinness Punch, Peanut Punch, Curry Goat and the Soups/Stews with those lovely dumplings. It's great food (especially post drinking/raving/sessioning) but IME, heavy salt content, the meat (esp chicken) has been cremated and there's generally a very unhealthy feel about most of the dishes. Other than that, I quite like it.

But I'm yet to have an amazing culinary experience; went to Cottons in Camden (twice) and the two differences that stood out were how the dishes were served and the price.


Baryonyx

18,275 posts

187 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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I've always enjoyed Carribean food, though I have to admit it doesn't excite me like the thought of say, a good Chinese or Indians does. I'm sure it will have it's moment, one day.

Griff Boy

1,563 posts

259 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Levi roots seems to be doing ok out of it! (apart fron the court cases!)

I've been there a few times now, and the food can be great, full of flavour and spices. But don't forget slot of the places are pretty poor, and they use cuts that we wouldn't dream about, which can take a bit of getting used to!

Never even seen a Carribean restaurant in Scotland, but I'd try it if there was one,

bigandclever

14,326 posts

266 months

Saturday 3rd December 2011
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Glassman said:
But what is it about Caribbean cuisine? Not very popular is it?
It sort of is, in certain areas. Try Brixton for Bamboula or Negril. Weirdly, my closest takeaway (in Reading) is Caribbean - but it's not very good smile

anonymous-user

82 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Curried goat, yum yum.


craigjm

21,303 posts

228 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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It is popular (and damn good too) but hasn't really become universally accepted I guess so is confined generally to areas where there is a local population of caribbean people and areas like central london.

Hoover.

5,993 posts

270 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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I think it's slowly growing popularity, or a twist on it... you just have to look on tv... yep Levi Roots, but then you've got that Aaron bloke is mixing influences, Gary Rhodes has done a series recently shown on the Good Food Channel...... a few places have also recently sprung up around Soho,... so slowly it is gaining popularity.

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

223 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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The best foods in the Islands are, as usual, to be found in the markets or the roadside.

Seamoss or Tamarind to drink. Homemade still gingerbeer in old rum bottles. Pepperpot and Fungi, Saltfish, Dasheen, Bullfoot or Whelkswater. Soursopp Icecream for pud. All good eating.

As you go further down island, the Indian influence is there with Roti and curries, then the South American foods come north. Empanadas and Arepas are what I make at home.

Cuban and Puerto Rican cuisine is also outstanding.

All part of the Caribbean, not just Jamacian jerk stuff.

Edited by Fishtigua on Sunday 4th December 11:42

Glassman

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24,889 posts

243 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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With Chinese and Indian restaurants having done so well over the previous 50-ish years, I'm curious why the 'West Indian' contingent have not driven it forward to the bigger stage. Especially considering that there are so many influences that make up Caribbean dishes.

BarnatosGhost

33,785 posts

281 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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Anyone tried kuchela? A spicy Trinidadian unripened mango chutney

Good lord. Delicious. Definitely on my top 5 desert-island foods.

LooneyTunes

9,327 posts

186 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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I'm not sure it's that it isn't good enough, but sometimes wonder if the lack of popularity is due at least in part to the fact that the weather isn't right over here? I.e. the sense of place is lacking...

craigjm

21,303 posts

228 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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LooneyTunes said:
I'm not sure it's that it isn't good enough, but sometimes wonder if the lack of popularity is due at least in part to the fact that the weather isn't right over here? I.e. the sense of place is lacking...
Last time i stuck my head out of the window it was nothing like India either

LooneyTunes

9,327 posts

186 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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craigjm said:
Last time i stuck my head out of the window it was nothing like India either
That's fair comment, but when it's blowing a gale outside a decent curry goes down a treat. Not so sure that the same applies with Caribbean food.

craigjm

21,303 posts

228 months

Sunday 4th December 2011
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LooneyTunes said:
That's fair comment, but when it's blowing a gale outside a decent curry goes down a treat. Not so sure that the same applies with Caribbean food.
A lot of Caribbean food is not that different to Indian food really and some of the dishes are spiced up versions of stews etc we would traditionally eat in the UK

I think the main reason it hasn't gone mainstream is the cost of ingredients. Stuff like green banana and yams are not widely available enough for them to be as cheap as Indian and Chinese ingredients.

H_Kan

4,942 posts

227 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Hmm not Caribbean, but I've eaten various Kenyan dishes due to family links over there and am generally pretty disappointed.

Only things I really like are cassava done pretty much anyway and something called Irio. I find a lot of the food bland and don't like the idea of sweet edges to savoury dishes which is pretty common over there.

Glassman

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24,889 posts

243 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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I wish someone would have a go at it, even if it was tongue-in-cheek:

Mash-up Yam

Cha! Grilled Chicken

Roots and Culture Vegetables

Spinach with Sensi

Baby Fada Sweetcorn

irie etc