very very nice 964 turbo 3.6

[Phooey]

Lovely!

http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3468708.htm

[rlw]

Light grey leather? Why?

[bridey0]

rlw said:

Light grey leather? Why?

Wud obviously be better in black but it's a period colour. Those are very collectable but personally id say it's alot of cash. I'd think that the 3.3 wud be just about the same car for alot less.
There's gonna be a turnabout in prices in all these 'investment' cars although that won't please the PCGB 964RS brigade but if u have the cash and not bothered in losing cash fill ya boots!

[mollytherocker]

bridey0 said:

Wud obviously be better in black but it's a period colour. Those are very collectable but personally id say it's alot of cash. I'd think that the 3.3 wud be just about the same car for alot less.
There's gonna be a turnabout in prices in all these 'investment' cars although that won't please the PCGB 964RS brigade but if u have the cash and not bothered in losing cash fill ya boots!

What makes you think that the 3.6 964T will drop significantly in value?

MTR

[Vixpy1]

Its a wibble car with a wibble price

[bridey0]

mollytherocker said:

What makes you think that the 3.6 964T will drop significantly in value?

MTR

These cars along with RS's have seen some great value gains in recent years and maybe rightly so but ahead of what's coming economically you can see why there are now sellers around, simple economics really.
Doesn't mean that long term these cars and others arent nice to have and won't gain further in value or maybe more likely just not devalue but from here what you put into these cars in maintenance you ain't getting back in capital gain for the next 5yrs.
For example there's a cracking red 964rs on here thats 60k no offers it says but no ones biting he's arm off just yet.
I love these cars and see the point in owning them but there cud easily be a retracement in values. All that goes up can come down you know.
As I said though if u got enough cash go for it!!!

[mollytherocker]

bridey0 said:

mollytherocker said:

What makes you think that the 3.6 964T will drop significantly in value?

MTR

These cars along with RS's have seen some great value gains in recent years and maybe rightly so but ahead of what's coming economically you can see why there are now sellers around, simple economics really.
Doesn't mean that long term these cars and others arent nice to have and won't gain further in value or maybe more likely just not devalue but from here what you put into these cars in maintenance you ain't getting back in capital gain for the next 5yrs.
For example there's a cracking red 964rs on here thats 60k no offers it says but no ones biting he's arm off just yet.
I love these cars and see the point in owning them but there cud easily be a retracement in values. All that goes up can come down you know.
As I said though if u got enough cash go for it!!!

I dont see the 3.6 964T being affected by the economic downturn. Its too rare and special. The vanilla Porsches will be affected of course, like they have already.

But the rare and special ones are safe in my view. I'm not saying that they are a 'free ownership' proposition, that is something else.

MTR

[bridey0]

mollytherocker said:

I dont see the 3.6 964T being affected by the economic downturn. Its too rare and special. The vanilla Porsches will be affected of course, like they have already.
The
But the rare and special ones are safe in my view. I'm not saying that they are a 'free ownership' proposition, that is something else.
You an owner per chance????
MTR

[bridey0]

mollytherocker said:

I dont see the 3.6 964T being affected by the economic downturn. Its too rare and special. The vanilla Porsches will be affected of course, like they have already.

But the rare and special ones are safe in my view. I'm not saying that they are a 'free ownership' proposition, that is something else.

MTR

Also rarity doesn't garantee prices.

[mollytherocker]

bridey0 said:

mollytherocker said:

I dont see the 3.6 964T being affected by the economic downturn. Its too rare and special. The vanilla Porsches will be affected of course, like they have already.

But the rare and special ones are safe in my view. I'm not saying that they are a 'free ownership' proposition, that is something else.

MTR

Also rarity doesn't garantee prices.

Agree, but rarity AND specialness together are pretty strong.

And no, I havent got one but they are one of my fave Porsches.

MTR

[Xstyle]

bridey0 said:

... but ahead of what's coming economically ...

there will always be things to worry about though...

[bridey0]

mollytherocker said:

Agree, but rarity AND specialness together are pretty strong.

And no, I havent got one but they are one of my fave Porsches.

MTR

They are very special indeed and I'd have one for sure but I don't see any reason that in the next 24months u couldn't pick up an RS for under 50k.
Also these cars can be very expensive to maintain when they start to go wrong. Mate of mines had 2 top end rebuilds in a 964.

[mollytherocker]

bridey0 said:

mollytherocker said:

Agree, but rarity AND specialness together are pretty strong.

And no, I havent got one but they are one of my fave Porsches.

MTR

They are very special indeed and I'd have one for sure but I don't see any reason that in the next 24months u couldn't pick up an RS for under 50k.
Also these cars can be very expensive to maintain when they start to go wrong. Mate of mines had 2 top end rebuilds in a 964.

I agree on the high maintenance costs, but a 964RS under 50k in 2 years?

I havent got a crystal ball and with the world economic climate seemingly heading for the bin, its possible.

But with the increasingly popularity of Porsche air cooled cars in new markets like China and the limited number made, I would bet on them increasing.

MTR

[bridey0]

mollytherocker said:

I agree on the high maintenance costs, but a 964RS under 50k in 2 years?

I havent got a crystal ball and with the world economic climate seemingly heading for the bin, its possible.








But with the increasingly popularity of Porsche air cooled cars in new markets like China and the limited number made, I would bet on them increasing.

MTR

You may well be right Molly. All the best and nice talking too you

[Crimp a Length!]

I wouldn't like to predict prices of the 3.6 at this stage.
IMO they are at the highest now, certainly won't go higher, i think this particular car nice that it is, is overpriced. Too many miles to command a 70k+ price tag.

I'd buy a 3.3 for 30-35k enjoy it and still get your hard earned back in a couple of yrs when you move it on.

No doubt the armchair dealers on here will have a different opinion.
The thread on the 993 Turbo for sale is where my money would be if i was after another old turbo.

[ras62]

The market has changed already imo. Top quality cars are still selling for fairly strong money but everything else is off the peak. The cars mentioned are indeed very desirable, and usable, but they are not collector quality due to mileage. Money is tight at all ends of the financial scale, I expect a drop short term, in fact by the VFM remarks it is already beginning to happen.

[bridey0]

ras62 said:

The market has changed already imo. Top quality cars are still selling for fairly strong money but everything else is off the peak. The cars mentioned are indeed very desirable, and usable, but they are not collector quality due to mileage. Money is tight at all ends of the financial scale, I expect a drop short term, in fact by the VFM remarks it is already beginning to happen.

Those were indeed my thoughts. Few RS's about now that havnt sold for a while and whilst lovely cars to own I think a tad overpriced

[spareparts]

Stupid price, but those who can, will, for something like this.

[denat]

Looks like my previous car. If so i sold it way too early... For what it is worth car is nice to drive and feels pretty fast. Having said in this price range you have a lot of other options. I for sure would prefer a 993 or 964 RS (in fact this is what i sold it for..).

[turbo964]

Good luck to the seller but cant see it selling for that kind of money. £55k - £60k more likely i would have thought.