Which Gallardo?
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wineman02

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397 posts

230 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I am in the process of purchasing a business which I see huge potential in. Writing my business plan up at the moment I am setting some financial goals to meet. One thing I like to have as an incentive is a car and would love a Gallardo to complement my 328 GTS.

So, given a budget at todays prices of circa £80k what would you go for? Am I right in saying there where some issues pre-2005? I would be looking for a brightly coloured one if that makes a difference to the price. What would be the general consensus on what to avoid getting as well? I am not looking for a Spyder I don't think as to me it loses the "look" too much.

I did a search BTW and it just kept on freezing on me.

Thanks

bertie

8,569 posts

315 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Quick summary, post 06 car, before that the clutches were made out of digestive biscuits.

They look great in Orange or Greed if you can find one, default colour is yellow.

Manual is lovely to use, e-gear is great for blasting but a PITA manouvering and you need to learn to drive it, but once you do it's a hoot.

Crack on!

wineman02

Original Poster:

397 posts

230 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Thanks Bertie.

Do the clutches on the e-gear wear out a lot sooner than with the manual box? I had a Alfa 147 Selespeed (paddles) and got on fine with it. It e-gear a similar thing?

Was there a particular month in 06 that the clutches changed or should I just look at 2007's onwards?

bertie

8,569 posts

315 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Most have been changed by now anyway so anything post 06 should be fine, on e-gear you can get a readout of wear from the ECU.

e-gear is essentialy the same Magnetti Marelli automated manual system as Selespeed, and it is fine as long as you remember it's the same manula box with actuators attached, so if you trickle along in traffic slipping the clutch it'll wear, that's the same with manual or e-gear.

Get the clutch engaged fully before giving it any beans, it's got a bit more power than the Alfa!!

Having had 3 and loved them all, I'd go manual coupe.

sidned

479 posts

247 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Regarding the issues with clutches on pre '06 cars, does this issue still occur when the clutch is replaced? Will a new clutch be superior or is it something to do with the way the pre '06 cars use them? Do the manuals have the same clutch issues as the E-Gear?

bertie

8,569 posts

315 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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sidned said:
Regarding the issues with clutches on pre '06 cars, does this issue still occur when the clutch is replaced? Will a new clutch be superior or is it something to do with the way the pre '06 cars use them? Do the manuals have the same clutch issues as the E-Gear?
Manual or e-gear, it's all the same gearbox and all the same clutch.

The early issue B clutches were like a digestive, some reckoned D was ok but by the time it got to E revision it was sorted.
Anything post 06 or that has had the clutch changed post 06 should be on E revision (or later if they did another I don't know.)

iandc

3,893 posts

237 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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wineman02

Original Poster:

397 posts

230 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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iandc said:
That would be perfect smile

Gibson70

464 posts

236 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Incredibly beautiful looking car with the fantastic colour. I would buy it if I have the dosh !


iandc said:

70proof

6,158 posts

186 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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everything you need to know (and some) is contained in this thread..... enjoy!.....biggrin

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

sidned

479 posts

247 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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bertie said:
sidned said:
Regarding the issues with clutches on pre '06 cars, does this issue still occur when the clutch is replaced? Will a new clutch be superior or is it something to do with the way the pre '06 cars use them? Do the manuals have the same clutch issues as the E-Gear?
Manual or e-gear, it's all the same gearbox and all the same clutch.

The early issue B clutches were like a digestive, some reckoned D was ok but by the time it got to E revision it was sorted.
Anything post 06 or that has had the clutch changed post 06 should be on E revision (or later if they did another I don't know.)
Thanks Bertie. So I am clear, even a replacement clutch in a pre '06 car will be inferior? i.e. the revised clutch in later cars will not fit the earlier cars? If this is the case, has an alternative manufacturer made a better clutch or is it something to do with the design of the car before 2006 and the way it uses the clutch? Sorry for all the questions, but I was considering a Gallardo and don't want to end up with a problem child!

bertie

8,569 posts

315 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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sidned said:
Thanks Bertie. So I am clear, even a replacement clutch in a pre '06 car will be inferior? i.e. the revised clutch in later cars will not fit the earlier cars? If this is the case, has an alternative manufacturer made a better clutch or is it something to do with the design of the car before 2006 and the way it uses the clutch? Sorry for all the questions, but I was considering a Gallardo and don't want to end up with a problem child!
No, absolutely not.

The gearbox is exactly the same in all pre LP cars, only the plate material was changed.

So an e issue clutch plate is the same in all cars.

70proof

6,158 posts

186 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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sidned said:
Thanks Bertie. So I am clear, even a replacement clutch in a pre '06 car will be inferior? i.e. the revised clutch in later cars will not fit the earlier cars? If this is the case, has an alternative manufacturer made a better clutch or is it something to do with the design of the car before 2006 and the way it uses the clutch? Sorry for all the questions, but I was considering a Gallardo and don't want to end up with a problem child!
a pre-06 car can have the latest model 'e' clutch fitted as a reterofit..... so your only headache will be if it;s a low mileage car that hasn;t had a clutch replacement by now...

franki68

11,708 posts

252 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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A manual clutch will last a lot longer,and it is a great manual box,whereas the egear is not a great System .

bertie

8,569 posts

315 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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franki68 said:
A manual clutch will last a lot longer,and it is a great manual box,whereas the egear is not a great System .
That's a very sweeping statement and I'm not sure it's as simple as that.

I've had one manual and 2 e-gear cars and both are great but it depends on the type of driving you do and personal preference as much as anything.

Longevity also depends on driving style and learning to drive the e-gear, you can lunch a clutch in under 1k miles in anything if you abuse it.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

255 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Whats the straight line acceleration like on an early car?. Its something G owners never talk about, 911 turbo owners talk about nothing else but. The gearing is quite long isnt it, do they really push you into the seat, or is it like an m3 only more so, just a building acceleration but not explosive.

WCZ

11,570 posts

225 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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over double your budget and pointless for me to post but:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3398212.htm

70proof

6,158 posts

186 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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markcoznottz said:
Whats the straight line acceleration like on an early car?. Its something G owners never talk about, 911 turbo owners talk about nothing else but. The gearing is quite long isnt it, do they really push you into the seat, or is it like an m3 only more so, just a building acceleration but not explosive.
0-60 4.2 and about 10 for 0-100, a 5l v10 with 500 bhp and loads of torque and 4wd..... acceleration feel is dependent on what you are used to, but with those stats can't be bad even for the older cars!! first gear was tall so would take you to 60+.... but that affected low speed turning rather than acceleration feel from what i read...

kbf1981

2,351 posts

231 months

Thursday 8th December 2011
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WCZ said:
over double your budget and pointless for me to post but:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3398212.htm
That's lush.

UH-Matt

2,173 posts

271 months

Thursday 8th December 2011
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kbf1981 said:
WCZ said:
over double your budget and pointless for me to post but:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3398212.htm
That's lush.
... or save £40k and buy one of the other ones advertised right now in white... (IMHO white looks better than grey on the LP570).