Strange "Additional" wiring under the bonnet
Strange "Additional" wiring under the bonnet
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eltax91

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10,757 posts

235 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Hi guys, I have had my PD130 Octavia for about 2 months now. I did the first self-service on it over the weekend, and noticed something that is, at least to my untrained eye, some form of after-market wiring (i.e. something that looks like it was not manufactured this way). Although admittedly it's looks "professionally" done.

Essentially, off the positive terminal of the battery, is a single wire, which runs to a fuse holder, then disappears under the air filter housing. It appears to then go into the bulk head where the offside strut mount top sits. No got around to taking the wipers off to remove the cover and see where it goes from there.

So, I'm reluctant to pull the fuse until I know what it is, but I know the area it is heading to is the location of the famous "climate" ECU that can get waterlogged on these cars. the climate unit functions fine...

So, any thoughts? Picture below, although not of much.


Kenny-Mack

197 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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the wire probably ends up finding its way inside the car, certainly doesn't sound factory!

are you the first owner? ... hasnt ever been a taxi has it? boxedin

Maybe a previous owner fitted a car kit for phone?

EDIT: see pic now, whatever it is, uses a bit of juice thats a fair old wire. and no that doesn't strike me as factory at all

I'd remove glove box, wire probably appears behind there somewhere!

MX7

7,902 posts

203 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I doubt you'd do much harm by taking out the fuse and seeing what doesn't work, unless someone has done something very strange.

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

260 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I would guess it would be powering a amplifier for some additional speakers.

Rickyy

6,618 posts

248 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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My Focus has a similar thing in it and it also has parts of an old hands free kit dotted about the interior.

eltax91

Original Poster:

10,757 posts

235 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Kenny-Mack said:
the wire probably ends up finding its way inside the car, certainly doesn't sound factory!

are you the first owner? ... hasnt ever been a taxi has it? boxedin

Maybe a previous owner fitted a car kit for phone?

EDIT: see pic now, whatever it is, uses a bit of juice thats a fair old wire. and no that doesn't strike me as factory at all

I'd remove glove box, wire probably appears behind there somewhere!
My first worry, was, has it been taxi's. The thing is, it's low mileage (54 plate, 58k) with every receipt of service history from new (indy). MOT online checks out to correct mileage and matches history. It's showing NO signs of additional wear. This is my 2nd Octavia, and I was very careful not to get an ex taxi with both.

Looks like i will have to rip out the glovebox and have a poke about. There is no tell-tale evidence of a car kit anywhere, that's for sure.

a7x88

795 posts

177 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Some aftermarket stereo's also need an additional power cable so could be that???

Another vote for pulling the fuse and seeing what stops!

littlebasher

3,961 posts

200 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Looks just the right sized wire to carry the +12V supply for the towbar wiring

eltax91

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10,757 posts

235 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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No sign of an aftermarket stereo. Tow bar is a possible shout! It has one fitted. smile

Rowan138

230 posts

180 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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it could be the supply for an aftermarket alarm sounder or a disused supply for a taxi radio, or possibly a remenant of a chavtastic audio system that has been since removed.

poo at Paul's

14,610 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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littlebasher said:
Looks just the right sized wire to carry the +12V supply to a towbar
Don't be daft, Taxi's dont have tow bars!

laugh

sebhaque

6,534 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Have a look in the boot or around the back seats - looks like the kind of wire you'd use to power an amplifier or subwoofer. Can you imagine the last owner(s) having such a kit installed?

Crease

583 posts

198 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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could be for an aftermarket alarm?

Kenny-Mack

197 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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i thought big stereo too but not likely because

1. not really the big stereo car of choice for kids?
2. i figure the op would have noticed the generic big fook off amp in the boot, not to mention family vibrating around the car on the way to shop
3. car stereo wiring tends to look quite bling, bright colours and such to justify its cost

eltax91

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235 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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sebhaque said:
Have a look in the boot or around the back seats - looks like the kind of wire you'd use to power an amplifier or subwoofer. Can you imagine the last owner(s) having such a kit installed?
I bought from an independent dealer. Of course, being a used car sales man, he told me it was owned by an elderly gentleman, who only ever towed a small trailer. To be honest, I negotiated on condition/ history that i could READ and not on what the old crank selling the car told me. Sadly, as this one was not a private purchase, i didn't meet the previous owner.

It is a 1 prev. owner car though.

eltax91

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235 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Kenny-Mack said:
2. i figure the op would have noticed the generic big fook off amp in the boot, not to mention family vibrating around the car on the way to shop
rofl

There is certainly no amp in the boot.

Crease

583 posts

198 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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sebhaque said:
Have a look in the boot or around the back seats - looks like the kind of wire you'd use to power an amplifier or subwoofer. Can you imagine the last owner(s) having such a kit installed?
the wiring for an amplifier would have to be much thicker, and use a more heavy duty fuse

trust me, i used to be a boyracer you'know


PaulB81

883 posts

189 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Could it be for a tracker?

eltax91

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10,757 posts

235 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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PaulB81 said:
Could it be for a tracker?
Maybe so. No documentation in the car's book to suggest it's got anything fitted. On a run of the mill Octavia - unlikely I think!



eltax91

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10,757 posts

235 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I'm assuming, whatever it is would currently be running as "permanent" live? based on the fact it's hooked directly to the battery. I've yet to notice any signs of a drain at all.

Might have to borrow a trailer board and pull the fuse and see if the lights go out!!

Wouldn't the tow bar be wired into existing rear wiring, rather than run something all the way through the car?