Invincible 4x4 Drivers?!
Invincible 4x4 Drivers?!
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amccan10

Original Poster:

589 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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With the bad weather the last few days there seems to be a lot of people thinking that because they're in a chuffin big 4x4 that the icy road conditions won't effect them?

Granted, yes having 4 wheel drive is a benefit when picking off / going up and down slopes etc. however more noticeably over the last few days I've seen a fair bit of dodgy driving some of the most shocking of which was by 4x4's.

In particular tailgaiting, driving too fast on icy roads and braking too late when approaching stationary traffic / junctions

Has anyone else noticed this or has it just been isolated to my commute through the Glasgow Southside and Penilee.
Personally I drove past 2 bumps where 4x4's had rear ended other cars.

(If you're a 4x4 PH'er please ignore this rant, I'm sure this won't apply to you)


KB_S1

5,967 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Happens every year.

There is an utter numpty local to me that drives a Mitsubishi Animal and loves to do about 50mph in the residential streets.
He overtook me on a pavement last year when the snow was particularly bad.

6C4GTS

5,186 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Most urban 4x4 drivers have missed the key fact that AWD is a drive system not a braking system. If you want to brake better fit winter or snowflake marked tyres to your chelsea tractor and it will go and stop!

KB_S1

5,967 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Not only that but the decent traction usually means you get up to much higher speeds than those without the AWD.
Which makes the braking even more difficult.
Add the massive weight of some of the more SUV style ones and there is a lot of potential trouble.

6C4GTS

5,186 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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To be fair any AWD car on the wrong tyres has an interesting inbalance between traction and braking and needs to be driven accordingly - scoobies evos and other awd sports cars included.

KB_S1

5,967 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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I am well aware of that! wink

6C4GTS

5,186 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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KB_S1 said:
I am well aware of that! wink
Not a criticism of the breed, or your scooby biggrin - I have a rwd car on full snowflake snow tyres, a suv on m+s tyres and an awd coupe on performance tyres - so I'm the pussy braking early all winter!

A.J.M

8,393 posts

216 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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Noted, and ignored as requested. smile Although numpties exist in all makes of cars, the 4x4 driving ones stand out a bit more in this weather. And get caught out eventually. hehe

Saying that, people like to crash into the bucket...

amccan10

Original Poster:

589 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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6C4GTS said:
To be fair any AWD car on the wrong tyres has an interesting inbalance between traction and braking and needs to be driven accordingly - scoobies evos and other awd sports cars included.
Yip, totally agree.

I was cruising along at 20mph in my scoob and some tt in a pajero was blasting past me, outside a school, doing 40ish on road that was thick with frozen snow.

amccan10

Original Poster:

589 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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A.J.M said:
Noted, and ignored as requested. smile Although numpties exist in all makes of cars, the 4x4 driving ones stand out a bit more in this weather. And get caught out eventually. hehe

Saying that, people like to crash into the bucket...
Its nothing against the bucket..... Its you we're aiming for paperbag

A.J.M

8,393 posts

216 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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amccan10 said:
A.J.M said:
Noted, and ignored as requested. smile Although numpties exist in all makes of cars, the 4x4 driving ones stand out a bit more in this weather. And get caught out eventually. hehe

Saying that, people like to crash into the bucket...
Its nothing against the bucket..... Its you we're aiming for paperbag
hehe Aim for something else though. A tree, lamp posts, children, etc. my insurance is going down and I want to keep it that way!


grumpyscot

1,293 posts

222 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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I live on a steepish hill. Householder lives at bottom of hill and drives a BMW X5. He couldn't get up the hill and had to be towed up by a bog standard Mk 2 Honda CRV!

Just because you own a 4x4 doesn't mean you know how to drive it! Best thing I ever did was to go on a 4x4 course at Knockhill - taught me how to handle - even in 2 wheel drive - vehicles in a variety of conditions and on steep slippery gradients when you deliberately have to stall the engine and restart it!


jshell

12,106 posts

235 months

Saturday 10th December 2011
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grumpyscot said:
I live on a steepish hill. Householder lives at bottom of hill and drives a BMW X5. He couldn't get up the hill and had to be towed up by a bog standard Mk 2 Honda CRV!

Just because you own a 4x4 doesn't mean you know how to drive it! Best thing I ever did was to go on a 4x4 course at Knockhill - taught me how to handle - even in 2 wheel drive - vehicles in a variety of conditions and on steep slippery gradients when you deliberately have to stall the engine and restart it!
X5 is particularly shyte though as it has no diff locks and runs wide, high speed-rated tyres. They're not meant for ice/snow or offroad at all.

breakdown

499 posts

215 months

Friday 16th December 2011
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these people have a superior attitude to driving..fec you i have a 'safe 4 by 4'and i am invincible.i will leave site now before alec salmonds hate laws get me arested..and ive spelt that wrong.. im out of here..

CJ1987

4,295 posts

182 months

Friday 16th December 2011
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as being a 4x4 driver for a bit i have seen some stupid driving but the bad weather just makes it more noticeable than any other time