Audi A4 1.8t 190 feels really slow
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Hi,
Had my B6 Audi A4 1.8t Avant for about 2 months now. It had an issue where it was sometimes difficult to get into reverse so I had the clutch and dual mass flywheel replaced and it seems to have solved the problem. Nowm I really like the car in terms of looks and comfort (its an S-line avant model) but starting to get annoyed with how slow it feels. It's the 190bhp model so I thought it would be reasonbly swift but I'm pretty sure my old St Tdci (155bhp) felt much quicker.
A comparison of the figures between a ST Tdci and the Audi shows that 0-60 times of the Mondeo is only marginally slower and it has quite a lot more torque than the Audi so I guess that explains the difference in the way they feel.
Anyone else here drive somethine with the Vag 1.8t engine and find it a bit guttless? I've been in a Leon Cupra R before which I think has the same engine but a bigger turbo and 225 bhp. That felt pretty quick.
I wonder if there is something wrong with mine or it's just me coming from a background of turbo diesels.
Ramble over!
Had my B6 Audi A4 1.8t Avant for about 2 months now. It had an issue where it was sometimes difficult to get into reverse so I had the clutch and dual mass flywheel replaced and it seems to have solved the problem. Nowm I really like the car in terms of looks and comfort (its an S-line avant model) but starting to get annoyed with how slow it feels. It's the 190bhp model so I thought it would be reasonbly swift but I'm pretty sure my old St Tdci (155bhp) felt much quicker.
A comparison of the figures between a ST Tdci and the Audi shows that 0-60 times of the Mondeo is only marginally slower and it has quite a lot more torque than the Audi so I guess that explains the difference in the way they feel.
Anyone else here drive somethine with the Vag 1.8t engine and find it a bit guttless? I've been in a Leon Cupra R before which I think has the same engine but a bigger turbo and 225 bhp. That felt pretty quick.
I wonder if there is something wrong with mine or it's just me coming from a background of turbo diesels.
Ramble over!
I had a Cupra R 225 remapped to about 270bhp with supporting modifications, that was a fast car. Can't imagine that big heavy Audi with 190bhp is up to much though, and remapping and modifying it to go quicker with so much car to lug around will just place a lot of stress on the engine, suspension, brakes, tyres etc.
Cupramax said:
Are you sure its a 190 and not a 163?.... There should be a sticker in the wheel well with the power output in KW's.
Also there's no point comparing with a Leon Cupra R, its got more power and is about 150kg lighter.
Yes defo 190bhp model. Agree that a comparison with the cupra R is not valid. It's just that I didn't expect it to be as slow as it is. Tempted by a remap but might see if I can find someone else with a 190bhp model to compare first.Also there's no point comparing with a Leon Cupra R, its got more power and is about 150kg lighter.
My Octavia VRS feels quick enough (1.8T 180bhp). The diesels seem to give a huge lump of torque about 2k rpm but the 1.8T seems smoother and keeps pulling. I don't find the need to use a lot of revs to make good progress though, but then most of my previous cars have been N/A Japanese revvy things.
According to wisebuyers.co.uk the only 1.8T s-line model is a 190, but there are sport models with 163bhp. I would check the sticker in the boot as already mentioned.
According to wisebuyers.co.uk the only 1.8T s-line model is a 190, but there are sport models with 163bhp. I would check the sticker in the boot as already mentioned.
TypeRTom said:
My Octavia VRS feels quick enough (1.8T 180bhp). The diesels seem to give a huge lump of torque about 2k rpm but the 1.8T seems smoother and keeps pulling. I don't find the need to use a lot of revs to make good progress though, but then most of my previous cars have been N/A Japanese revvy things.
According to wisebuyers.co.uk the only 1.8T s-line model is a 190, but there are sport models with 163bhp. I would check the sticker in the boot as already mentioned.
Yup, it's defo an S-line and defo a 190bhp (unless someone has swapped the engine!). I guess being used to the low down torque of diseles I've been driving everywhere changing gears at 2500 revs! I need to tell my self that revvin it to 4000k is not thrashing it! Or accept that it was always boguth with the intention of being a comfortable family car.According to wisebuyers.co.uk the only 1.8T s-line model is a 190, but there are sport models with 163bhp. I would check the sticker in the boot as already mentioned.
speedmachine said:
TypeRTom said:
My Octavia VRS feels quick enough (1.8T 180bhp). The diesels seem to give a huge lump of torque about 2k rpm but the 1.8T seems smoother and keeps pulling. I don't find the need to use a lot of revs to make good progress though, but then most of my previous cars have been N/A Japanese revvy things.
According to wisebuyers.co.uk the only 1.8T s-line model is a 190, but there are sport models with 163bhp. I would check the sticker in the boot as already mentioned.
Yup, it's defo an S-line and defo a 190bhp (unless someone has swapped the engine!). I guess being used to the low down torque of diseles I've been driving everywhere changing gears at 2500 revs! I need to tell my self that revvin it to 4000k is not thrashing it! Or accept that it was always boguth with the intention of being a comfortable family car.According to wisebuyers.co.uk the only 1.8T s-line model is a 190, but there are sport models with 163bhp. I would check the sticker in the boot as already mentioned.
kambites said:
If you're always changing up at 2500rpm, you'll never have had more than 70bhp from the engine. A 70bhp A4 really is a slow car.
The 2.0T in our Octavia feels pretty swift once you get above the boost threshold and past the turbo-lag.
I guess I just need to get used to driving a petrol car properly and not like a diesel lol The 2.0T in our Octavia feels pretty swift once you get above the boost threshold and past the turbo-lag.
Edited by kambites on Friday 16th December 10:43
Heavy, refined, not that powerful (versus weight) with loads of electronics like a DBW throttle and probably a massive, heavy dual mass flywheel. To be fair it probably is reasonably quick but not being a sports model its tuned for smooth, torquey power deliver for brisk performance rather than fast, they have fast models, good news is that a remap will most likely wake it up, my 210 bhp Saab 9-2 didnt feel that much quicke rthan my old 150 lpt but a remap gave it an edge it didnt have before.
Think what you want is some old school, raw turbo action, nowadays they do ricks like limiting boost in the lower gears to preserve the drivetrain and avoid waranty claims but personally, I like to decide on whether I want to leave cogs on the road.
Think what you want is some old school, raw turbo action, nowadays they do ricks like limiting boost in the lower gears to preserve the drivetrain and avoid waranty claims but personally, I like to decide on whether I want to leave cogs on the road.
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