Do you reckon theres a lot of clocked tvr's?
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I always have a look in the classifieds at various tvr's and other similar type cars and one thing always strikes me as being similar.
The mileage on most cars for sale will usually be low, very low! it seems most 10 year old tvr's have covered maybe 20k on average, theres a lot with 10-15k and a lot with a max of 30k.
I just find this hard to believe, i know some people really do rarely use theirs, i know that, but on the other hand when you read the threads about how much people use theirs and they are doing over 5k a year it makes you wonder.
Would someone really buy a brand new tuscan or sag etc and then do just a few hundred miles a year? I know when i got my tuscan i couldnt keep out of it. Infact i have covered 4500 miles since april and thats with the car being off the road due to a rebuild and then off again due to me tidying the chassis up. my car has 59k which would be considered high, but you go and look at say an e46 m3 or a clk55amg and thats considered low mileage- on a car half the age! Mine has covered 5k a year average, thats still bloody low! If i hadnt been on holiday and needed a rebuild i reckon mine would have done 6k and mine is a weekend toy not a daily at all.
Quite a few use theirs daily or at least as often as possible so a few hundred a year every year for 10 years strikes me as odd.
I cant be the only one thinking this?
The mileage on most cars for sale will usually be low, very low! it seems most 10 year old tvr's have covered maybe 20k on average, theres a lot with 10-15k and a lot with a max of 30k.
I just find this hard to believe, i know some people really do rarely use theirs, i know that, but on the other hand when you read the threads about how much people use theirs and they are doing over 5k a year it makes you wonder.
Would someone really buy a brand new tuscan or sag etc and then do just a few hundred miles a year? I know when i got my tuscan i couldnt keep out of it. Infact i have covered 4500 miles since april and thats with the car being off the road due to a rebuild and then off again due to me tidying the chassis up. my car has 59k which would be considered high, but you go and look at say an e46 m3 or a clk55amg and thats considered low mileage- on a car half the age! Mine has covered 5k a year average, thats still bloody low! If i hadnt been on holiday and needed a rebuild i reckon mine would have done 6k and mine is a weekend toy not a daily at all.
Quite a few use theirs daily or at least as often as possible so a few hundred a year every year for 10 years strikes me as odd.
I cant be the only one thinking this?
My T350 is a weekend toy, used mostly on a Saturday when the wife is at work, purchased 3 years ago with 8500 on the clock and now on almost 26k. Personally I could never justify the expense on a 20k plus toy to have it sat in the garage most weeks of the year. Whilst higher mileage may affect the value a bit I'd rather have fun with it than keep it as an investment for the next owner.
I think some cars really don't get used much. MOT records show mine as only covering about 500 miles in 3 years, but other owners used it more. I do about 5k miles a year.
The car I had beforehand was 12 years old when I bought it and it had only 5700 miles, but it had stood in a collection for years.
Generally speaking though, i get suspicious if a 10 year old car has only done 15k miles, and there ae so many of these that it does seem a bit implausible.
The car I had beforehand was 12 years old when I bought it and it had only 5700 miles, but it had stood in a collection for years.
Generally speaking though, i get suspicious if a 10 year old car has only done 15k miles, and there ae so many of these that it does seem a bit implausible.
When I bought my tuscan last year, I looked at a 2000 car which had 7k miles. The car looked mint and didn't look like it had done many miles, however the history was patchy and 'because of the limited miles' it hadn't been serviced much. Price difference aside, this kind of put me off the car as seemed a bit too low.
Intermittent fault on Dash/Dash ECU/connection stopped my previous Tiv from clocking up all it's miles for a month or two until I could get it fixed, but having done over 50K miles, it was probably less than 1% out of true, so to speak..
I hate not driving my Tiv for more than a few days, now that the gritters are out, I'm a really frustrated bunny...
I don;t think many Tiv owners would clock them or deliberatly stop the mileometer clocking up miles... but there's always a con man around the corner ready to exploit some poor soul.
I hate not driving my Tiv for more than a few days, now that the gritters are out, I'm a really frustrated bunny...
I don;t think many Tiv owners would clock them or deliberatly stop the mileometer clocking up miles... but there's always a con man around the corner ready to exploit some poor soul.
salmon said:
When I bought my tuscan last year, I looked at a 2000 car which had 7k miles. The car looked mint and didn't look like it had done many miles, however the history was patchy and 'because of the limited miles' it hadn't been serviced much. Price difference aside, this kind of put me off the car as seemed a bit too low.
I was happier to buy my car at 45k miles than some of the improbably low mileage ones I saw. Mine has a couple of gaps in service history (especially where it was unused), but loads and loads of receipts, plus MOT's. The owner after it had been off the road was a partner at TVR Power and they did the rebuild and went over the car for issues so I was comfortable. I felt that at the mileage the car had, it was unlikely that it had been clocked but still low mileage for a 10 year old car.
scotty_d said:
I Don't think there is many out there most have service history and Mot's to back it up and as said most use them as second cars/weekend toys.
What use is service history and MoTs? Drive 1K miles, disconnect the clock, drive 6K miles, reconnect the clock, service and MoT, hey presto! Some niaive posts on this thread. Better to buy on condition than paperwork.JR said:
scotty_d said:
I Don't think there is many out there most have service history and Mot's to back it up and as said most use them as second cars/weekend toys.
What use is service history and MoTs? Drive 1K miles, disconnect the clock, drive 6K miles, reconnect the clock, service and MoT, hey presto! Some niaive posts on this thread. Better to buy on condition than paperwork.My first Griff' used to add 1 mile whenever the igintion was turned 'on or 'off' 
So, if I backed it out of the garage, washed it then put it back into the garage, the speedo said it had covered 4 miles! I personally got into TVR's when I hung up my biker leathers and use them in the same way, sunny days. [sad to some, but my treat] So my TVR's have low mileage attached and one year because of work/weather only did 840 miles 
So, if I backed it out of the garage, washed it then put it back into the garage, the speedo said it had covered 4 miles! I personally got into TVR's when I hung up my biker leathers and use them in the same way, sunny days. [sad to some, but my treat] So my TVR's have low mileage attached and one year because of work/weather only did 840 miles Edited by macdeb on Monday 19th December 11:54
JR said:
What use is service history and MoTs? Drive 1K miles, disconnect the clock, drive 6K miles, reconnect the clock, service and MoT, hey presto! Some niaive posts on this thread. Better to buy on condition than paperwork.
Paperwork is part of the overall picture and needs to be consistent along with wear on interiors etcchris52 said:
It wouldn't suprise me if clocks get disconnected if only for the limited mileage insurance.
Chris
never been asked to prove the mileage PA even when I made a claim. As it happens I had a log of mileage at the start of the poliy and the speedo and milometer were never disconnected.Chris
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