W2003 Standard or W2003 Web Edition?

[PetrolTed]

I'm speccing the new PH servers and need to decide between Standard edition 2004 or Web edition.

Web edition looks like the one to go for except:

MS said:

Organizations cannot use Windows Server 2003, Web Edition, to deploy enterprise Universal Description, Discovery, and Integration (UDDI) services. UDDI is an essential component for enabling discovery and reuse of XML Web services.

Am I likely to need UDDI stuff? I don't fully understand it yet but I'd need to be providing some fairly fancy services to need that level of complexity wouldn't I?

[Podie]

The web edition is for general hosting / web serving... not sure if by "organisation" MS mean large coproate LAN's with several servers, rather than a single server...

I'll ask one of our MSCE's tomorrow...

[danhf]

Have two svrs with std and t'others with web.



dan

[JamieBeeston]

Web = No MSSQL

We tend to stick Web on as stock, those who need MSSQL upgrade to Standard / 2000

Will say, make sure its firewalled and locked down, most 2003 boxes I know of have been rooted at least once so far.

[Podie]

JamieBeeston said:

Will say, make sure its firewalled and locked down, most 2003 boxes I know of have been rooted at least once so far.

Agreed... even though it is better than its predecessors...

[PetrolTed]

But am I likely to need UDDI?

[anonymous-user]

Are you expecting to want to publish SOAP web services for general consumption? Or is it more likely that you'll just be using (if at all) for internal use or with a small number of partners?

If it's the latter then you don't need UDDI AFAIK.

To learn more about UDDI, take a look at the UDDI website or one of the [url]registries|http://uddi.sap.com/[/url]

Edited to add: I've just thought, even if you are going to offer your web services to the world at large, there are loads of UDDI registries out there you could publish your service to anyway, so I'd say no, you don't need UDDI services on your servers.

>> Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 1st July 10:18

[PetrolTed]

Thanks. Might provide a few services but not on a grand scale so I think I'll go for the web edition. Thanks for your help.

[NoelWatson]

PetrolTed,

I think you will be OK with web edition. The only limitations are

1. 10 in-bound server message block (SMB) connections www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/overview/web.mspx

This is not a problem if you are using anonymous authentication as you are at present.

2. Limited to 2 processors per box


SQL Server does not come with Windows 2003 - it's a separate install

[JamieBeeston]

NoelWatson said:

SQL Server does not come with Windows 2003 - it's a separate install

Goes without saying, but it will not install on 2003 WE. M$ Refuse to let it.

MySQL goes on.. just not MSSQL.

There is also a RAM limit, but its trivial.

WE is a nice 'lite' OS.

[plotloss]

Bit misleading that.

To deploy web services you dont strictly need UDDI.

Its just a yellow pages...

[NoelWatson]

JamieBeeston,

Thanks for that info, wasn't aware that MS had that restriction in place.

[danhf]

NoelWatson said:

JamieBeeston, Thanks for that info, wasn't aware that MS had that restriction in place.

Nor was I - are you sure it's true Jamie? I'm 90% sure have a dev server running win2k3 with MS SQL on it but I'll confirm on Monday.

dan

[JamieBeeston]

danhf said:

Nor was I - are you sure it's true Jamie? I'm 90% sure have a dev server running win2k3 with MS SQL on it but I'll confirm on Monday. dan

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;819258

Microsoft Website said:

SYMPTOMS When you install Microsoft SQL Server 2000 on a computer that is running Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Web Edition, the SQL Server Setup program may not run successfully. Additionally, you may receive the following error message: Windows cannot open this program since it has been disabled. MORE INFORMATION Windows Server 2003 Web Edition is designed to build and to host Web-based applications and Web services. Because of this, Windows Server 2003 Web Edition does not support enterprise applications, including SQL Server 2000. Therefore, when you install any enterprise applications, you must configure your computer to run Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition.