Thatcher - State Funeral - is it Official?

[Nom de ploom]

This was mentioned on Radio 5 live on staturday...

I have to say if it is I am genuinely appalled.

I'll be glad when she is finally snuffs it.

What is the criteria anyway? Winston Churchill - arguably the greatest PM ever - although he was a great Leader not neccesarily the best politician.

and quite a gap to Thatcher? who next? John Major?.

Coming from a mining and industrial town, I'll be careful what I say here but, to say the least this sticks in the throat. It will be a celebration of a passing despotic, divisive loon not a celebration of a great 20th century figure imho.

apols if there is a thread already. couldn't find it.

[PugwasHDJ80]

Hopfully its official- she certainly deserves one.

[thinfourth2]

PugwasHDJ80 said:

Hopfully its official- she certainly deserves one.

Erm

Why?

[ScoobyDood]

Nom de ploom said:

Coming from a mining and industrial town, a celebration of a passing despotic, divisive loon

Scargill?

You forgot "destructive",

[Digga]

thinfourth2 said:

PugwasHDJ80 said:

Hopfully its official- she certainly deserves one.

Erm

Why?

She was one of the strongest PM's we've ever had. I know her qualities are overshadowed by the fact she is despised by many - those north of the border, people who liked going down holes to find fossilised trees, fat unionists - but she was an exceptionally strong leader, not at all like the populist ste we've had to endure in recent decades and very much a person of principle.

Sceptics would do well to see what other countries said about her, rather than our own leftie media.

+1 for a state funeral.

[AndyACB]

Isn't this just a little premature? Usually a funeral follows once the person is actually dead, its a bit ott to get all indignant about it just yet.

For what it's worth though, I don't think she should have a state funeral.

[Jonathan27]

Not wishing to make a comment either way, I would just ask one thing. To those who passionately hate Thatcher. Why? Please just name a handful of things that she did that have caused problems for you?
Far to many people dislike her because they feel that they ought to, rather than having any actual reason to do so.

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thinfourth2 said:

PugwasHDJ80 said:

Hopfully its official- she certainly deserves one.

Erm

Why?

For being a national hero.

[AndyACB]

Digga said:

those north of the border, people who liked going down holes to find fossilised trees, fat unionists

Any semblance of a valid point being made went out of the window with that big of bigotry unfortunately.

[rich1231]

Nom de ploom said:

I'll be glad when she is finally snuffs it.

All we need to know, what a odious thing to say.

[Piersman2]

She deserves everything she gets.

Including a state funeral with ALL the bells and whistles.

The last leader of this country that genuinely was able to stand upon the world stage and give Britain some pride.

More balls than all those that have followed her put together.

[Fittster]

Going to need a lot of riot police on duty that day. Guess the Met will be pleased that Thatcher gives them one more bumper pay day.

[Digga]

Jonathan27 said:

Not wishing to make a comment either way, I would just ask one thing. To those who passionately hate Thatcher. Why? Please just name a handful of things that she did that have caused problems for you?
Far to many people dislike her because they feel that they ought to, rather than having any actual reason to do so.

Because the yoon-yuns and BBC told 'em to.

People forget that one of Thatchers crosses to bear was to bring down the status-quo which wrecked huge swathes of British industry - the legacy of Red Robbo and the like. I should add, in fairness, that part of this, not often reported was not just the taming of unions but also idiot management, as for as BL was concerned.

[jdw1234]

Shall we have a seperate thread for whinging Northern Unionists?

[TheHeretic]

I hope she gets one. She had the balls to put a stop to industrial subsidies that were bankrupting the country. Many of these industries could have continued, albeit smaller, of it wasn't for the pseudo-communist strike owner like Scargill, etc. The strikes affected the country far more than anything Thatcher did.

As for the Poll tax, how was it unfair?

[AndyACB]

Is this what people had in mind?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2076472/Ki...

Apologies for the DM link.

[thinfourth2]

Digga said:

the fact she is despised by many - those north of the border, people who liked going down holes to find fossilised trees, fat unionists - but she was an exceptionally strong leader, not at all like the populist ste we've had to endure in recent decades and very much a person of principle.

Sceptics would do well to see what other countries said about her, rather than our own leftie media.

+1 for a state funeral.

Which is exactly why the torys would be very foolish to let her have a state funeral due to the media storm and resulting backlash

Let her pop off without anyone noticing and hopefully your beloved tory party can step out from her shadow as many still vote labour because they want to keep maggie away from number 10

[jmorgan]

I would probably be better off with the poll tax.

[Digga]

AndyACB said:

Digga said:

those north of the border, people who liked going down holes to find fossilised trees, fat unionists

Any semblance of a valid point being made went out of the window with that big of bigotry unfortunately.

So you think the conservatives are well liked north of the broder? Who are you kidding?

I'm not implying you all have red hair and wear tamoshanters and I'm pretty sure you cannot refute that.

[Oakey]

You've got to laugh, the same people arguing that the banks should have been allowed to fail are most likely the same ones that are whining over the loss of mining.