2 in 1 pies

[Glocko Shirts]

Hi culinary pals,
I'm currently helping my local pub rebrand itself including food menus.
I've come up with a plan for them to build a reputation for doing really good home made pies.
An idea I've had is to do a two filling pie, i.e. Steak and Guinness on one side of the pie dish and a portion of cauliflower cheese the other, this would then be topped with flaky pastry.
Any thoughts? And indeed any other varieties you can suggest?

[Henry Hawthorne]

Not to be rude, but I think that's a very bad idea. Why would you want to mix the two things together in a pie?

If you want to get a reputation for good pies, get good local ingredients, make a good pastry and make sure the flavours are right and you're away. Trying to reinvent the wheel won't work.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

pie and mash in a pie may work but also not as you wouldnt to ear half a pie full of meat etc then be faced with half a pies worth of mash

[mattdaniels]

Sounds like a bad idea. What if people want the pie but not the veg, or want to change the veg to something else from the menu?

[Glocko Shirts]

The double pie was going to be a special, in addition to the regulars, Steak & Guinness, hotpot etc etc. I've found a couple of websites which are doing it, they look to be quite successful.
http://www.easytorecall.com/2in1/food_and_drink.ht...

[BigAl77]

Glocko Shirts said:

Hi culinary pals,
I'm currently helping my local pub rebrand itself including food menus.
I've come up with a plan for them to build a reputation for doing really good home made pies.
An idea I've had is to do a two filling pie, i.e. Steak and Guinness on one side of the pie dish and a portion of cauliflower cheese the other, this would then be topped with flaky pastry.
Any thoughts? And indeed any other varieties you can suggest?

No No No that is not a pie. It is a casserole with a lid.

Make real pies. It was a big thing down Bristol way a few years ago with pieminster pies in pubs. Keep it simple.

[Huntsman]

Glocko Shirts said:

The double pie was going to be a special, in addition to the regulars, Steak & Guinness, hotpot etc etc. I've found a couple of websites which are doing it, they look to be quite successful.
http://www.easytorecall.com/2in1/food_and_drink.ht...

I reckon its a fab idea, just make sure its a massive pie, I'm a greedy git and SPDS (small pie disappointment syndrome) really upsets me.

[BigAl77]

Huntsman said:

I reckon its a fab idea, just make sure its a massive pie, I'm a greedy git and SPDS (small pie disappointment syndrome) really upsets me.

Its not a pie!!!

[Glocko Shirts]

Pies are defined by their crusts. A filled pie (also single-crust or bottom-crust), has pastry lining the baking dish, and the filling is placed on top of the pastry, but left open. A top-crust pie, which may also be called a cobbler, has the filling in the bottom of the dish and the filling covered with a pastry or other covering before baking. A two-crust pie has the filling completely enclosed in the pastry shell.

Ergo...it's a pie! :-)

[BigAl77]

Glocko Shirts said:

Pies are defined by their crusts. A filled pie (also single-crust or bottom-crust), has pastry lining the baking dish, and the filling is placed on top of the pastry, but left open. A top-crust pie, which may also be called a cobbler, has the filling in the bottom of the dish and the filling covered with a pastry or other covering before baking. A two-crust pie has the filling completely enclosed in the pastry shell.

Ergo...it's a pie! :-)

Not a pie.

This is a pie

I should know I eat a lot of pies;-)

[mattdaniels]

Pies were invented to be a one stop shop - the pastry was the container to cook the meat in and stop you getting it all over your hands when you ate it.

So it's very simple - a pie is a container for meat. Possibly gravy too. But definitely no green-st and definitely none of this "some pastry on one side not on the other" nonsense.


Don't mess with pie.

[evenflow]

There's a place near me that does quite well out of this idea.

http://www.2in1pub.co.uk/

[V8mate]

Glocko Shirts said:

An idea I've had is to do a two filling pie, i.e. Steak and Guinness on one side of the pie dish and a portion of cauliflower cheese the other, this would then be topped with flaky pastry.

But...

evenflow said:

There's a place near me that does quite well out of this idea.

http://www.2in1pub.co.uk/

So you haven't had an idea at all. It's a twenty year old idea with a registered trademark to boot.

[Mobile Chicane]

It's a very old idea.

The original Cornish Pasty had a savoury filling at one end, and a sweet filling at the other.

Main course and dessert in one.

[Gizmo!]

Flaky pastry?

Flaky?

FFS.

[thetapeworm]

Make pies as normal and then make individual veg pies to satisfy your desire to encase cauliflower in pastry - that way you can offer people a choice of which combos they get.

Is there any potential to replace the pasty with a baked vegetable of some description?

[V8mate]

Cauliflower cheese is the Devil's work, in any case.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

Gizmo! said:

Flaky pastry?

Flaky?

FFS.

short crust makes me heave so for me it has to be flaky

[Glocko Shirts]

V8mate said:

So you haven't had an idea at all. It's a twenty year old idea with a registered trademark to boot.

I've had an idea for the pub, not an idea to create a new type of pie/casserole/hotpot etc!

[V8mate]

Glocko Shirts said:

I've had an idea for the pub, not an idea to create a new type of pie/casserole/hotpot etc!

Nooo. You've copied someone else's idea. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it's the fact of the matter.

Probably best to be aware of that trademark - given they they've peppered the TM symbol all over their website, they're clearly pretty precious about it.