Where would you invest £1500 pcm.
Where would you invest £1500 pcm.
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matt3001

Original Poster:

1,997 posts

214 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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If you were saving for a property deposit, call it £50k for example.

Savings pcm of £1500, where would be putting it?

cailean

917 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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If you are "saving" for a property deposit to be used within the next 5 years I would not suggest you "invest" it anywhere. You should save it in a secure savings account/cash ISA etc.

cymtriks

4,561 posts

262 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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cailean said:
....I would not suggest you "invest" it anywhere....
Why not?

What is wrong with 5K each on Tesco, Kingfisher, Unilever, Rolls-Royce, Serco, Anglo-American, etc ?

Three years of reinvesting any dividends aswell.

Corrected for inflation the 2007 FTSE was circa 7500 and the 1999 FTSE was nudging 10000, currently at 5-and-a-bit thousand.

Worth a punt?

anonymous-user

71 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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cymtriks said:
Why not?

What is wrong with 5K each on Tesco, Kingfisher, Unilever, Rolls-Royce, Serco, Anglo-American, etc ?

Three years of reinvesting any dividends aswell.

Corrected for inflation the 2007 FTSE was circa 7500 and the 1999 FTSE was nudging 10000, currently at 5-and-a-bit thousand.

Worth a punt?
Possibly, so long as you understand that it is just a punt and that stock markets go up and down etc. You can limit the risk by going for a rock solid name like Tesco, but you are unlikely to make loads of money, the biggest rewards come from the bigger risks. If the Euro tanks then even big names could take a hit.

If you have lots of spare cash then I think stocks and shares are an option, but this is hard earned cash being saved for a deposit for a house so i'd go slow and safe. You can get some "reasonable: rates on longer term savings now

Dave_ITR

835 posts

214 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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I would suggest maxing out your ISA entitlements before anything else.

Cheib

24,592 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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cymtriks said:
Worth a punt?
As long as your remember it's that!

Personally I think stock markets sell off in the New Year.....EU will get a lot worse before it gets better.

The lessons are there that political invervention will only be of sufficient scale when the situation becomes apocolyptic.....the US only bailed out the financial system when it became clear the result of letting Lehman going bust was far wider reaching than anticipated and the UK only bailed out RBS at the 11th hour. Politicians cannot and do not take strong enough proactive measures to avoid financial crises.

ftsedaytrader

2 posts

165 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Agreed that 2012 is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I wouldn't be surprised to see the FTSE below 5000 early next year.

Odie

4,187 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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swiss watches, diamonds, precious metals (not gold)

Jackleman

974 posts

183 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Leaving it in the bank you will almost being going backwards against inflation. ISA seems sensible, but definitely spread your risk/investments

MrCheese

356 posts

200 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Be careful with these "rock solid blue chip names". BP was before the fiasco and no-one could have predicted that. Don't do anything silly like gold which could double or halve depending on the dates you buy/sell.

jeff m2

2,060 posts

168 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Investing if done correctly is not a gamble, there is of course some risk but that is true of any venture that seeks reward.

Fives years is too long to sit in Sterling or any other currency. (with the way politicians handle our econimies)

On the fixed interest side Corp debt is worth a look, the default rate of 2% is priced in, and pays around 8%. Which when compounded keeps you ahead of inflation (which is what it is all about)

Corporations are doing way better than the economy, many have cash just sitting around. Dividend growth is the key to stock selection.

I cannot suggest UK stocks because I don't follow them closely enough and I'm not sure individual stocks would suit you because your limited trickle feed would not give you initial diversity.

But you could maybe get equity exposure by choosing an Investment Trust. Some care is needed to make sure there are no outstanding warrants that could later reduce NAV. I would think there must be a couple of decent ones sitting at favourable discounts.

MatthewO

867 posts

170 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Rolls-Royce seems a solid investment to me, but maybe that's 'cos I work there paperbag

A quick look at the share price thingy that's on these PCs shows that current share price is 723.50p which is slightly hefty, but since I joined the company in 2009, the shares have steadily risen 250p!

Seems like a faultless investment to me, but as the price has reached such a peak, they are much more likely to head south in the future...

Where's that american money bloke when you want him?

DayTrader

776 posts

184 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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MatthewO said:
Rolls-Royce seems a solid investment to me, but maybe that's 'cos I work there paperbag


Seems like a faultless investment to me, but as the price has reached such a peak, they are much more likely to head south in the future...
So a faultless investment is one that you think is likely to head south in the future?!

Just because a share price is at an all time high don't for one second think it's more likely to fall - a lot of would be millionares thought that about Google, Apple, Amazon et al about 10 years ago.

DonkeyApple

63,761 posts

186 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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If you are saving the money to utilise it as a deposit in a retail property then the only logical non cash investment would be one that correlates with the value of retail property, that way your value stays inline with the value of what you are looking to buy.

To invest in something which is unlinked wouldn't make much sense as your risk will exceed that of cash.

bigandclever

14,082 posts

255 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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DayTrader said:
MatthewO said:
Rolls-Royce seems a solid investment to me, but maybe that's 'cos I work there paperbag


Seems like a faultless investment to me, but as the price has reached such a peak, they are much more likely to head south in the future...
So a faultless investment is one that you think is likely to head south in the future?!

Just because a share price is at an all time high don't for one second think it's more likely to fall - a lot of would be millionares thought that about Google, Apple, Amazon et al about 10 years ago.
Since we're picking on RR, you'd have been a bit gutted to buy at 533 in December 2007 and watch it halve to 259 by October 2008 smile

DayTrader

776 posts

184 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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bigandclever said:
Since we're picking on RR, you'd have been a bit gutted to buy at 533 in December 2007 and watch it halve to 259 by October 2008 smile
Not if I still had them today I wouldn't. 36% increase from 2007 to today is pretty impressive wink

Podie

46,646 posts

292 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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jeff m2 said:
Investing if done correctly is not a gamble, there is of course some risk but that is true of any venture that seeks reward.
Ah, the banking sector philosophy.

grumbledoak

32,208 posts

250 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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You are saving for a deposit. Try to seperate the words saving and investing; they are not the same thing.

fandango_c

1,960 posts

203 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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jeff m2 said:
Investing if done correctly is not a gamble, there is of course some risk but that is true of any venture that seeks reward.
You have contradicted yourself there.....

anonymous-user

71 months

Saturday 24th December 2011
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fandango_c said:
jeff m2 said:
Investing if done correctly is not a gamble, there is of course some risk but that is true of any venture that seeks reward.
You have contradicted yourself there.....
No he didn't. He's right.