My Z4 M Roadster
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Urban Sports

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11,321 posts

232 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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My wife had our first child Isaac in October, we only need one (practical wink ) car between us because we work together so I seized the opportunity and bought her a baby wagon and chopped in my 325i for this little machine.

Haven't really used it a great deal yet mainly because of the weather, I did take it to a wintry and icy Evo Triangle a couple of weekends ago yikes

It is in a different league to the 2 S2000s I previously owned in terms of performance, handling and fuel consumption wink

Did I mention the noise at all? biggrin

Anyway I'm not a great photographer but I cleaned it today so thought I'd share! Yes yes yes I know the garage is a mess but it does get used for its intended purpose of storing cars, power tools and beer wink and ignore the state of the fence I'm still doing my house up rolleyes























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Nick J

1,084 posts

253 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Very very very nice



















Lotus Elise wink

Urban Sports

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11,321 posts

232 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Nick J said:
Very very very nice



















Lotus Elise wink
Thanks it complements the Z4 pretty well.

wink

taylor86

134 posts

201 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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is the elise the "practical family wagon"???


Urban Sports

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232 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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taylor86 said:
is the elise the "practical family wagon"???
No wink that's Nick J's the focus down the drive is the other one.

flimper

580 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Interlagos Blue & no SatNav, that's the way to go fella!!

russy01

4,823 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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Nice car, I'm sure it's much faster than the S in every accelerative respect. But I don't see how it pimps the s2000 on turn in etc, the z feels much heavier and is much heavier.

Urban Sports

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232 months

Thursday 22nd December 2011
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flimper said:
Interlagos Blue & no SatNav, that's the way to go fella!!
I usually know where I'm going wink

Urban Sports

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Thursday 22nd December 2011
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russy01 said:
Nice car, I'm sure it's much faster than the S in every accelerative respect. But I don't see how it pimps the s2000 on turn in etc, the z feels much heavier and is much heavier.
Don't know, what is the difference 150kg???

I did a fair few miles in both of my S2000s including on track, they really never did inspire me that much (although the later car was much better), you could throw them into corners and the change of direction is pretty good, but on anything other than a really dry surface they never really felt totally planted to me.

I believe a good geo can sort them drastically but I wouldn't know.

Like I said I have only done a few hundred miles in less than ideal conditions, these are my first impressions. I may have got it horribly wrong but I suppose time will tell.

smile


Edited by Urban Sports on Thursday 22 December 23:37

PaulG40

2,381 posts

254 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Nice Beeemmer! Defo the Z4 I'd go for if I was in the market for one! Great colour too!








'Cough' Nice Elise Nick!

russy01

4,823 posts

210 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Urban Sports said:
russy01 said:
Nice car, I'm sure it's much faster than the S in every accelerative respect. But I don't see how it pimps the s2000 on turn in etc, the z feels much heavier and is much heavier.
Don't know, what is the difference 150kg???

I did a fair few miles in both of my S2000s including on track, they really never did inspire me that much (although the later car was much better), you could throw them into corners and the change of direction is pretty good, but on anything other than a really dry surface they never really felt totally planted to me.

I believe a good geo can sort them drastically but I wouldn't know.

Like I said I have only done a few hundred miles in less than ideal conditions, these are my first impressions. I may have got it horribly wrong but I suppose time will tell.

smile


Edited by Urban Sports on Thursday 22 December 23:37
Yea the weight difference isnt huge, but I found its the position of the engine. My mate has a 3.0i Z4 and the lump sits right over the front wheels, where as you know in the S2k its tucked in behind. Its this which makes the difference on turn in. (im sure pushed hard your Z4 will chew up front tyres)

I do agree with what you about feeling planted though, mines a '55 year and it feels great in the dry, but anything other and I tend to pussyfoot around her a bit.

I think a slightly stiffer S2000 would be magic on a dry track, although you still wouldnt feel that much through the front.

I know the facts and figures show a fair difference in performance between the two cars, but from your point of view how much faster does it really feel back to back? from say 60mph up it must pull much harder?

AB

20,406 posts

224 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Lovely, just lovely. My favourite colour for them too!

What's the spec like?

I'd maybe have gone for heated seats which it doesn't look like it has but you're spot on about the sat nav, it's just not that type of car IMO.

Dave Hedgehog

16,304 posts

233 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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what a great husband you are, 2 cars for your wife, very thoughtful

Urban Sports

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11,321 posts

232 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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russy01 said:
Urban Sports said:
russy01 said:
Nice car, I'm sure it's much faster than the S in every accelerative respect. But I don't see how it pimps the s2000 on turn in etc, the z feels much heavier and is much heavier.
Don't know, what is the difference 150kg???

I did a fair few miles in both of my S2000s including on track, they really never did inspire me that much (although the later car was much better), you could throw them into corners and the change of direction is pretty good, but on anything other than a really dry surface they never really felt totally planted to me.

I believe a good geo can sort them drastically but I wouldn't know.

Like I said I have only done a few hundred miles in less than ideal conditions, these are my first impressions. I may have got it horribly wrong but I suppose time will tell.

smile


Edited by Urban Sports on Thursday 22 December 23:37
Yea the weight difference isnt huge, but I found its the position of the engine. My mate has a 3.0i Z4 and the lump sits right over the front wheels, where as you know in the S2k its tucked in behind. Its this which makes the difference on turn in. (im sure pushed hard your Z4 will chew up front tyres)

I do agree with what you about feeling planted though, mines a '55 year and it feels great in the dry, but anything other and I tend to pussyfoot around her a bit.

I think a slightly stiffer S2000 would be magic on a dry track, although you still wouldnt feel that much through the front.

I know the facts and figures show a fair difference in performance between the two cars, but from your point of view how much faster does it really feel back to back? from say 60mph up it must pull much harder?
I have always been an advocate of the S2000, and have never really bought into the lack of torque issue that is usually spouted by people who haven't driven one, I always thought the S2000 was plenty quick enough with it's 240 ish bhp.

The Z4 is quicker in terms of outright performance in every way, I'm particularly impressed with the torque, it pulls hard from 2000rpm yet still revs to 8000rpm. Off the line I always found it difficult to get away quickly in the S2000, the Z4 is like a scalded cat in comparison.

On the move IMO it is even more apparent but then again that is to be expected with more than an extra 1200 cc, 100 bhp and 100 lbft torque.

I don't really buy into massive power / forced induction so this is plenty for me.

Don't get me wrong it isn't perfect but that was also what I liked about the S2000, it had character. It was a very close call between this and a Boxster S, I'm glad I bought the Z4.

smile

If only it had the S2000 gear change wink

Urban Sports

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11,321 posts

232 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Dave Hedgehog said:
what a great husband you are, 2 cars for your wife, very thoughtful
I see what you did there, that's funny.

wink

wackojacko

8,581 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Good work.

Dave Hedgehog

16,304 posts

233 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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Urban Sports said:
I see what you did there, that's funny.

wink
winktongue out

Urban Sports

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232 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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AB said:
Lovely, just lovely. My favourite colour for them too!

What's the spec like?

I'd maybe have gone for heated seats which it doesn't look like it has but you're spot on about the sat nav, it's just not that type of car IMO.
Problem is when I bought it there were slim pickings on the BMW AUC network and I did want the warranty and the best possible price for my 3 Series which I part exchanged back into the BMW AUC network.

The only extra things I would maybe have liked was heated seats and free insurance wink

strikingtheiron4

25 posts

177 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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way to go convincing the wifey for those cars. very sleek.

nice cars, why not include the Focus on the pic? make it a family picture instead of just your own. lol. biggrin

Urban Sports

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232 months

Friday 23rd December 2011
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strikingtheiron4 said:
way to go convincing the wifey for those cars. very sleek.

nice cars, why not include the Focus on the pic? make it a family picture instead of just your own. lol. biggrin
You can see it lurking in the background, and I'm only the guardian of the Elise wink