I want to make fabulous expresso!!!
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Get a gaggia classic, and spend £100 on a decent burr grinder. You'll also need a good tamper (£20+), plus a milk pitcher for cappucinos.
Be prepaired to learn lots about all the things that need attension when making fabulous espresso. You'll make a lot of crap coffees during this learning process aswell as the occasional fabulous one!
It's worth it once you master it.
Good luck
Be prepaired to learn lots about all the things that need attension when making fabulous espresso. You'll make a lot of crap coffees during this learning process aswell as the occasional fabulous one!
It's worth it once you master it.
Good luck

Totally agree with making lots of crap coffee....but it's a pleasurable moment when you hit it spot on, and then once you have refining tecnique.... I love the involvement of the hand pulled espresso compared to just press the button types
I now maintain that the best local coffee is in my kitchen........ as for some of the dross served up in shops I would be embarressed to serve,
La Pavoni Professional c/w Ascaso i mini stainless steal and Motta tamp.....
I now maintain that the best local coffee is in my kitchen........ as for some of the dross served up in shops I would be embarressed to serve,
La Pavoni Professional c/w Ascaso i mini stainless steal and Motta tamp.....
Huntsman said:
You'll have a lot more success choosing a coffee machine if you correct youe spelling.
Espresso.
Sorry, Ph pedantry got to me, I use a espresso maker on the gas ring, simple 2 piece jobbie, its very good.
My complete and sincere apologies to you. My original post was typed one-handed on my mobile whilst I had to simultaneously wrestle with my 4 year old daughter and hang up our mountain of wet laundry. I am rather surprised that you could make any sense of it...Espresso.
Sorry, Ph pedantry got to me, I use a espresso maker on the gas ring, simple 2 piece jobbie, its very good.
Zod said:
Get a Rocket machine. They are made with parts for professional machines, by some guys in Milan who split from one of the big makers. They're about £1200. You need a grinder too. They sell a Mini Mazzer which is great, but I got a Rancilio Rocky grinder.
Investment is going to be the same as an integrated miele from what I gather. But the rocket is a beautiful thing to look at though...I've spoken to a chap in the trade who can acquire refurbed mazzers for around £150....
He's also got a pro grade rancilio espresso machine he wants to offload too
stanwan said:
Investment is going to be the same as an integrated miele from what I gather. But the rocket is a beautiful thing to look at though...
I've spoken to a chap in the trade who can acquire refurbed mazzers for around £150....
He's also got a pro grade rancilio espresso machine he wants to offload too
An integrated Miele won't get you anywhere near a fabulous espresso, so it's a moot point. A pro-grade Rancilio would be an great proposition, and a refurb Mazzer foe 150 pounds would be an absolute must buy. The grinder is almost more important than the machine. I've spoken to a chap in the trade who can acquire refurbed mazzers for around £150....
He's also got a pro grade rancilio espresso machine he wants to offload too
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MC2-CHALLENGE-GRINDER-CO...
Good starter grinder, if you want new with warranty, etc.
Good starter grinder, if you want new with warranty, etc.
I was going to get a cheap gaggia a few weeks ago for about 100 quid or so (a refurb off their website), but in doing my research I found that Which blind tested several machines a while back, and the machine that came second was a 35 quid machine from argos. So the scotsman in me came racing to the surface and I got that, along with a 3 year extended breakdown cover, for a touch over 40 quid, so I should get a few years use out of it even if the boiler goes bang in 18 months time.
they were right - it is very very good and is a total steal for the money. But if you have a few hundred to spend (and dont mind spending it) it would go for a gaggia - they look very nice and I am sure they make superb coffee.
they were right - it is very very good and is a total steal for the money. But if you have a few hundred to spend (and dont mind spending it) it would go for a gaggia - they look very nice and I am sure they make superb coffee.
stanwan said:
Huntsman said:
You'll have a lot more success choosing a coffee machine if you correct youe spelling.
Espresso.
Sorry, Ph pedantry got to me, I use a espresso maker on the gas ring, simple 2 piece jobbie, its very good.
My complete and sincere apologies to you. My original post was typed one-handed on my mobile whilst I had to simultaneously wrestle with my 4 year old daughter and hang up our mountain of wet laundry. I am rather surprised that you could make any sense of it...Espresso.
Sorry, Ph pedantry got to me, I use a espresso maker on the gas ring, simple 2 piece jobbie, its very good.
t. I bet you pronounce it with an X as well.Huntsman, perhaps you can correct youR spelling, too?
I've had a Jura impressa machine for about a year now and find it makes superb coffee. They're about £800 new but I picked a decent secondhand one for £300.
Once you set up the grind settings well it produces a lovely cup of coffee. The optional milk frothier also is great once you get the settings right.
Next thing I need is to filter the water. Hopefully will then have the holy trinity including decent beans (Wogan Coffee, wholesaler in Bristol which supplies most cafes and charges £11/kg)...
Once you set up the grind settings well it produces a lovely cup of coffee. The optional milk frothier also is great once you get the settings right.
Next thing I need is to filter the water. Hopefully will then have the holy trinity including decent beans (Wogan Coffee, wholesaler in Bristol which supplies most cafes and charges £11/kg)...
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