X6 any good?

[Chipper]

I've seen an x6 with a very nice spec and would like to get into a vehicle that has a high driving position again and was wondering if they're any good especially over the X5 ?

What's the running costs like with the 4.0 d engine and do they eat tyres ?

Thx

Chipper

[Boshly]

Mine has done just under 20k miles and on original tyres, can't comment on costs just yet. Won't be long in the fronts though. It has 20" if that makes any difference.

I love mine. I prefer it over the ride of the X5, and prefer the looks but obviously you have a couple of sacrifices that I'm sure you're well aware of space (headroom) in the back is actually quite reasonable.

Can't remember if you asked about fuel but I'm getting a very consistent 26.9mpg in mixed driving (X35D).

[SBN]

I do love these, they remind me of the bat mobile out of the dark knight!

Really really want, although the boot doesnt seem very big

[taffyracer]

Actually they're extremelely good, tyre wise i've had 2 sets at £1,300 / set in 31,000miles of use, it's averaging 24.1mpg and for a 350bhp, 700Lb/ft 2.2t car it goes like a rocket......only downside is the poor quality standard leather and lack of a lumbar with the seats....great allrounder and IMO better than an X5

[Boshly]

taffyracer said:

Actually they're extremelely good, tyre wise i've had 2 sets at £1,300 / set in 31,000miles of use, it's averaging 24.1mpg and for a 350bhp, 700Lb/ft 2.2t car it goes like a rocket......only downside is the poor quality standard leather and lack of a lumbar with the seats....great allrounder and IMO better than an X5

Chipped then

Mine had the comfort seat spec (think I've got that right) and whilst it has got lumbar support is bloody complicated to adjust!! Reading what you wrote makes me feel a tad better about it

[Zod]

taffyracer said:

Actually they're extremelely good, tyre wise i've had 2 sets at £1,300 / set in 31,000miles of use, it's averaging 24.1mpg and for a 350bhp, 700Lb/ft 2.2t car it goes like a rocket......only downside is the poor quality standard leather and lack of a lumbar with the seats....great allrounder and IMO better than an X5

"Better than an X5" is a bizarre comment. It's an X5 with less space. It's for people who want that kind of car, but don't need the space and who like the looks. It has exactly the same mechanicals and is barely less heavy, so any perceived ride of performance difference is imaginary.

[Boshly]

Zod said:

taffyracer said:

Actually they're extremelely good, tyre wise i've had 2 sets at £1,300 / set in 31,000miles of use, it's averaging 24.1mpg and for a 350bhp, 700Lb/ft 2.2t car it goes like a rocket......only downside is the poor quality standard leather and lack of a lumbar with the seats....great allrounder and IMO better than an X5

"Better than an X5" is a bizarre comment. It's an X5 with less space. It's for people who want that kind of car, but don't need the space and who like the looks. It has exactly the same mechanicals and is barely less heavy, so any perceived ride of performance difference is imaginary.

I wouldn't know 100% or swear on the bible but I was told by a BMW salesman, before I bought mine in general conversation I would add that it's not an X5 with a different body but based on the 6 series chassis not the 5 series. He learnt ths at an introduction seminar (?) when the car was first released.

Certainly feels very different to an X5 when I drove both, somewhat more planted and dare I say sporty? However, I bought initially into the shape, which works for me.

[Boshly]

Zod said:

taffyracer said:

Actually they're extremelely good, tyre wise i've had 2 sets at £1,300 / set in 31,000miles of use, it's averaging 24.1mpg and for a 350bhp, 700Lb/ft 2.2t car it goes like a rocket......only downside is the poor quality standard leather and lack of a lumbar with the seats....great allrounder and IMO better than an X5

"Better than an X5" is a bizarre comment. It's an X5 with less space. It's for people who want that kind of car, but don't need the space and who like the looks. It has exactly the same mechanicals and is barely less heavy, so any perceived ride of performance difference is imaginary.

Just had a quick root through google and would appear that the main difference (that I can uncover) is that the X6 has BMW's latest chassis control system DPC which the X5 doesn't. Something to do with a multi planetary gear set and a twin plate clutch for each rear wheel??? All far to technical for me

[fredd1e]

SBN said:

I do love these, they remind me of the bat mobile out of the dark knight!

Really really want, although the boot doesnt seem very big

Depends on your perspective, its actually very big for a coupe. Its long and has extra space underneath the false floor.

[Zod]

Boshly said:

Zod said:

taffyracer said:

Actually they're extremelely good, tyre wise i've had 2 sets at £1,300 / set in 31,000miles of use, it's averaging 24.1mpg and for a 350bhp, 700Lb/ft 2.2t car it goes like a rocket......only downside is the poor quality standard leather and lack of a lumbar with the seats....great allrounder and IMO better than an X5

"Better than an X5" is a bizarre comment. It's an X5 with less space. It's for people who want that kind of car, but don't need the space and who like the looks. It has exactly the same mechanicals and is barely less heavy, so any perceived ride of performance difference is imaginary.

I wouldn't know 100% or swear on the bible but I was told by a BMW salesman, before I bought mine in general conversation I would add that it's not an X5 with a different body but based on the 6 series chassis not the 5 series. He learnt ths at an introduction seminar (?) when the car was first released.

Certainly feels very different to an X5 when I drove both, somewhat more planted and dare I say sporty? However, I bought initially into the shape, which works for me.

That salesman was talking out of his arse.

[Boshly]

Zod said:

That salesman was talking out of his arse.

Thanks, glad you contributed

My subsequent posting identified a difference; that and the weight saving coupled with a slightly lower C of G must therefore be giving the feeling of less body roll and better ride and handling that I experienced.

[Zod]

Boshly said:

Zod said:

That salesman was talking out of his arse.

Thanks, glad you contributed

My subsequent posting identified a difference; that and the weight saving coupled with a slightly lower C of G must therefore be giving the feeling of less body roll and better ride and handling that I experienced.

The X6 is not based in any way on the 6 Series. My comment was perfectly fair.

The weights are model for model almost identical. The X6 has a three inch lower roofline. Whether that translates into a lower C of G, who knows. Whatever it does, it remains a very tall car.

Edited by Zod on Monday 26th December 16:19

[thegreatdogwood]

Adaptive drive is the key to making either the X5 or X6 feel more planted

[Boshly]

Zod said:

Boshly said:

Zod said:

That salesman was talking out of his arse.

Thanks, glad you contributed

My subsequent posting identified a difference; that and the weight saving coupled with a slightly lower C of G must therefore be giving the feeling of less body roll and better ride and handling that I experienced.

The X6 is not based in any way on the 6 Series. My comment was perfectly fair.

The weights are model for model almost identical. The X6 has a three inch lower roofline. Whether that translates into a lower C of G, who knows. Whatever it does, it remains a very tall car.

Edited by Zod on Monday 26th December 16:19

No your comment wasn't "perfectly fair" it was crass and uninformative.

If you have an opinion or some information, great, that's what PH is about. But whilst you have expanded slightly now, you still don't explain where your info is from so, other than as an X5 owner, I have no real idea how to value your comments?

More on topic however, whilst the X6 "remains a very tall car" that's one aspect I love about it and the fact it handles so 'car like' (and better than the X5 IMHO) makes it for me, DPC, lower CoG weight or whatever.

[mph1977]

X6 - i'll say what i've said before - it looks like a cross between a space ship and a toilet, which g is all the more suprising given it isn't french ... it's up there with the Avantime and the Suzuki X-90 in bonkerness

[Zod]

Boshly said:

Zod said:

Boshly said:

Zod said:

That salesman was talking out of his arse.

Thanks, glad you contributed

My subsequent posting identified a difference; that and the weight saving coupled with a slightly lower C of G must therefore be giving the feeling of less body roll and better ride and handling that I experienced.

The X6 is not based in any way on the 6 Series. My comment was perfectly fair.

The weights are model for model almost identical. The X6 has a three inch lower roofline. Whether that translates into a lower C of G, who knows. Whatever it does, it remains a very tall car.

Edited by Zod on Monday 26th December 16:19

No your comment wasn't "perfectly fair" it was crass and uninformative.

If you have an opinion or some information, great, that's what PH is about. But whilst you have expanded slightly now, you still don't explain where your info is from so, other than as an X5 owner, I have no real idea how to value your comments?

More on topic however, whilst the X6 "remains a very tall car" that's one aspect I love about it and the fact it handles so 'car like' (and better than the X5 IMHO) makes it for me, DPC, lower CoG weight or whatever.

Oh dear, we have a sensitive, upset X6 owner. The last X6 I drove was the M version. As a driving experience, it was much closer to my X5 than to the M5 I still had then. It's a big SUV and not very practical.

[Boshly]

Zod said:

Oh dear, we have a sensitive, upset X6 owner. The last X6 I drove was the M version. As a driving experience, it was much closer to my X5 than to the M5 I still had then. It's a big SUV and not very practical.

Takes more than that to upset me you have an opinion and so do I. I give mine with a bit of expression on what it's based.

I actually agree with your comments on cars above except the "not very practical" as that is subjective; and in comparison to many cars it's extremely practical, however of course in comparison to many others it definitely isn't.

You see, isn't it nicer to actually debate and discuss and play nicely, rather than posting crass, pointless and uninformative statements, and ignoring the 'digs' above which really don't become you

[Zod]

Yes, it is, somlet's leave out the personal adjectives. My entry into this thread was to point out that the sentence,to the effect that the X6 is better than the X5 is nonsense. For some people, such as you, for their own reasons, it may be. For others, such as me, it is not.

To give a more extreme example, I could write that one of my cars is better than the other. Each does certain things much better than the other, but does a very poor job of some of the things the other does well, so to say that one is simply better is nonsense.

[roofer]

Chipper said:

would like to get into a vehicle that has a high driving position again and was wondering if they're any good especially over the X5 ?



Chipper

Transit, better drive entirely.

[Boshly]

Zod said:

Yes, it is, somlet's leave out the personal adjectives. My entry into this thread was to point out that the sentence,to the effect that the X6 is better than the X5 is nonsense. For some people, such as you, for their own reasons, it may be. For others, such as me, it is not.

To give a more extreme example, I could write that one of my cars is better than the other. Each does certain things much better than the other, but does a very poor job of some of the things the other does well, so to say that one is simply better is nonsense.

Well maybe you ought to go back and re-read as I never said it was bettr than an X5 (that was another posters opinion) you then stated that they were mechanically identical to which I posted both opinion and facts (from BMWs own site) to the contrary.

I condemned your "that salesmans speaking out of his arse" comment as you added nothing and didn't explain why you felt that was so (was it your opinion? Were you a BMW chassis engineer ...). You then gave me a subjective view on practicality (preceded by a couple of digs) when I expressed my opinion of preferring the ride and handling of the X6 (I may have claimed it was "better" but cba to go back and check on IPhone but at least I gave some reasons why I felt so).

Some of the order may not be 100% but that's the gist of it.

I'm not really interested in whether one of your cars is better than the other but please feel free to post as someone else may be