e60 525d touring vs e60 530d mpg
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What age of car are you asking about, pre LCI (<2007) of LCI model?
I had a 55 plate 530d Auto, pre LCI, averaged 29/30mpg from it, 21/22 in town and late 30's on the motorway. Very poor, as was the gearbox. Kept it a month.
I replaced it with a 550i (4.8 V8) M Sport touring and average 24mpg on the same journyes... why would anyone compromise a V8 for a diesel with those figures? Especially when the repair bills on these disels are potentially so much higher and require more maintenance\parts as the mileage creaps up.
I think the facelift cars are entirely different though and may match the figures above, minus 10-20% as per usual.
G
I had a 55 plate 530d Auto, pre LCI, averaged 29/30mpg from it, 21/22 in town and late 30's on the motorway. Very poor, as was the gearbox. Kept it a month.
I replaced it with a 550i (4.8 V8) M Sport touring and average 24mpg on the same journyes... why would anyone compromise a V8 for a diesel with those figures? Especially when the repair bills on these disels are potentially so much higher and require more maintenance\parts as the mileage creaps up.
I think the facelift cars are entirely different though and may match the figures above, minus 10-20% as per usual.
G
Hiya,
Owned a few but not tourings. This may help you decide
E60 2008/2009
530d 37 urban, 42 a roads, 45 on a run
525d 35 urban, 37 a roads, 40 on a run
F10/F11 2010/2011
520d 41 42 46
525d 36 39 42
530d 40 42 49
What im trying to say is get a 530d and enjoy it!!!
Russ
For clarity urban is 5 mile stop start to schools, a roads are 20 miles of mixed, run was 100 miles down clear motorway
Owned a few but not tourings. This may help you decide
E60 2008/2009
530d 37 urban, 42 a roads, 45 on a run
525d 35 urban, 37 a roads, 40 on a run
F10/F11 2010/2011
520d 41 42 46
525d 36 39 42
530d 40 42 49
What im trying to say is get a 530d and enjoy it!!!
Russ
For clarity urban is 5 mile stop start to schools, a roads are 20 miles of mixed, run was 100 miles down clear motorway
Edited by Russell B on Wednesday 28th December 15:33
525d touring......
Fuel Consumption Imperial (miles per gallon)
Urban 25.90 MPG
Extra-Urban 43.50 MPG
Combined 35.30 MPG
Extra urban is averaging 39mph for 7 miles, accelerating to 70mph once and with an unloaded car already up to temperature.
Never going to happen.
Expect figures between urban and combined.
Fuel Consumption Imperial (miles per gallon)
Urban 25.90 MPG
Extra-Urban 43.50 MPG
Combined 35.30 MPG
Extra urban is averaging 39mph for 7 miles, accelerating to 70mph once and with an unloaded car already up to temperature.
Never going to happen.
Expect figures between urban and combined.
E61 2005 auto 110k miles
Owned for just over a year - average mid 30's mpg
Long easy run up to mid 40's mpg
Best on a single tank 550 miles
Try this site (german but easy to use)
http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overview/6-BMW/38-5e...
Owned for just over a year - average mid 30's mpg
Long easy run up to mid 40's mpg
Best on a single tank 550 miles
Try this site (german but easy to use)
http://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overview/6-BMW/38-5e...
gizlaroc said:
I know someone with an E60 525d pre facelift, he did 214,000 miles in 3 years and was at 33mpg.
The older 2.5 litre engine with the old gearbox was pretty poor.
I had the 535d and averaged 26mpg over a years and 40k miles.
The facelift will see a 30% increase in mpg all round.
Tosh. Utter tosh.The older 2.5 litre engine with the old gearbox was pretty poor.
I had the 535d and averaged 26mpg over a years and 40k miles.
The facelift will see a 30% increase in mpg all round.
My pre lci 525d auto returns mid 40's on a motorway run and late 30's on mixed with early 30's in London.
The box has the software update and new fluid and filter and is very smooth.
As I stared earlier it depends on the condition of many factors and also driving style.
30% uplift in economy for lci cars- pffffft! That would mean early 40's in London and 60mpg on a run - don't be silly now.
hman said:
Tosh. Utter tosh.
My pre lci 525d auto returns mid 40's on a motorway run and late 30's on mixed with early 30's in London.
The box has the software update and new fluid and filter and is very smooth.
As I stared earlier it depends on the condition of many factors and also driving style.
30% uplift in economy for lci cars- pffffft! That would mean early 40's in London and 60mpg on a run - don't be silly now.
Haha, calm down.My pre lci 525d auto returns mid 40's on a motorway run and late 30's on mixed with early 30's in London.
The box has the software update and new fluid and filter and is very smooth.
As I stared earlier it depends on the condition of many factors and also driving style.
30% uplift in economy for lci cars- pffffft! That would mean early 40's in London and 60mpg on a run - don't be silly now.
Then you are the exception.
All I heard on the forums from 2004 through to around 2007 was people disappointed with the mpg from the E60 diesels.
And still now you see so many people who come on and say "Just bought a 525d and only getting a 32mpg average, is there something wrong?'
Official figures....
525d touring......
Fuel Consumption Imperial (miles per gallon)
Urban 25.90 MPG
Extra-Urban 43.50 MPG
Combined 35.30 MPG
You are one of the few that beat the official figures. Just be pleased mate.
Oh, the 30% uplift came from lots of owners, many 535d owners who went LCI and went from 27mpg to 34mpg average, and a few 525d and 530d owners that went from around 33mpg to just under 40mpg average.
If you can sit on the motorway at a steady 70mph I don't think mid 40's would be out of the question on any of them and figures would be similar, it is when the gearbox etc. starts to work hard that teh differences are noticeable.
70mph average in my 535d would see 38mpg, 85mph average in my 535d would see 33mpg.
Someone who sits at 75-80mph might think they are very frugal, someone who sits at 90-95mph may not think quite the same.
If you can sit on the motorway at a steady 70mph I don't think mid 40's would be out of the question on any of them and figures would be similar, it is when the gearbox etc. starts to work hard that teh differences are noticeable.
70mph average in my 535d would see 38mpg, 85mph average in my 535d would see 33mpg.
Someone who sits at 75-80mph might think they are very frugal, someone who sits at 90-95mph may not think quite the same.
gizlaroc said:
I know someone with an E60 525d pre facelift, he did 214,000 miles in 3 years and was at 33mpg.
The older 2.5 litre engine with the old gearbox was pretty poor.
I had the 535d and averaged 26mpg over a years and 40k miles.
The facelift will see a 30% increase in mpg all round.
But I get high twenties out of my father's XJ8, admittedly with very little urban driving. If diesels are that poor why not get one of those gorgeous straight six petrols and be done with it?The older 2.5 litre engine with the old gearbox was pretty poor.
I had the 535d and averaged 26mpg over a years and 40k miles.
The facelift will see a 30% increase in mpg all round.
hman said:
You see that's what happens when people perpetuate the myths that they hear on forums.
They talk tosh.
Own the car in question then be the expert.
Don't be a smarmy They talk tosh.
Own the car in question then be the expert.
, if you want to discuss it fine, but don't try and make out your experience is fact.If you're going to do that list your mileage, your location, how many miles a year you do, what speed you sit at on the motorway.
You may well get mid 40's on long runs, but what is a long run? Do you drive straight onto the motorway and sit at 75mph? Do you have a 10 mile treck across B roads to get to a dual carrigeway and then have 60 miles of duals with roundabouts every 2 miles?
I get better MPG in London than I do many smaller cities as there is longer stretches of roads between lights and junctions etc.
All I can do is go through the cars I have owned or had in the company that are similar to the 2.5 litre 525d touring in way of either engine or gearbox or both and list what MPGs I get.....
E39 530d auto 28mpg 24 town 35 run
330d touring auto 33mpg 28 town 38 run
120d auto (early 55 plate) 34mpg 31 town 39 run
535d touring auto 26mpg 24 town 36 run
335i touring 26mpg 24 town 36 run
320d touring auto (ed 177bhp) 44mpg 39 town 60+ run
123d auto 44mpg 39 town 55 run
730d auto 33mpg 29 town 38 run
520d auto F11 42mpg 38 town 49 run
Current....
530d GT auto 33mpg 29 town 40 run
X1 18d sDrive manual 44mpg 41 town 49 run
Mercedes E320cdi auto estate 34mpg
I do around 40k miles a year.
I am in Norfolk so have 60 miles of A11 before hitting any motorway.
My averages are closer to my round town figures than my 'on a run' figures, however, others me be the other way round.
Scamp's Walker said:
BMW figs for e60 tourings are
525d Urban 33.6 extra urban 54.6 combined 44.1
530d 32.1 53.3 42.8
535d 30.7 50.4 40.9
Are these realistic achievable figures?
Figures look a bit steep for me.525d Urban 33.6 extra urban 54.6 combined 44.1
530d 32.1 53.3 42.8
535d 30.7 50.4 40.9
Are these realistic achievable figures?
I used to own a 2005 535d. Town 22-24mpg, fast run 35ish mpg
I now have a 535d GT town 22-25mpg, fast run 33ish mpg, even with my wife driving she can only get 38mpg on "A" roads, it is supposed to do 48mpg. Ha Ha what a load of ball licks
Thanks for the info one and all, much appreciated. Additional question...what is LCI, and why does it make so much difference? The cars I am looking at are post '07 and all seem to have the short metallic auto selector rather than the one I have seen on earlier cars which appears to be the same as the e39.
Scamp's Walker said:
Thanks for the info one and all, much appreciated. Additional question...what is LCI, and why does it make so much difference? The cars I am looking at are post '07 and all seem to have the short metallic auto selector rather than the one I have seen on earlier cars which appears to be the same as the e39.
The LCI is BMW speak for facelift (Life Cycle Impulse) and the ones with the "short metallic auto selector" are indeed the LCI models. In addiction to the new gear box (and selector) it also changed the interior and the front and rear lights plus Idrive. Fr all the changes see here:
http://www.5series.net/information/2008_LCI_Detail...
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