Buying an M6 - Brakes
Discussion
Hi All,
I'm thinking about purchashing an M6. Having owned an CSL I am aware of the poor quality brakes fitted to the E46 M3. Have things improved with the M6? The car i'm looking at will be a 2005-2006 model. Have any owners changed the calipers or are you happy with the standard setup? Thanks!
I'm thinking about purchashing an M6. Having owned an CSL I am aware of the poor quality brakes fitted to the E46 M3. Have things improved with the M6? The car i'm looking at will be a 2005-2006 model. Have any owners changed the calipers or are you happy with the standard setup? Thanks!
Absolutely fine for road work and pads/discs last well. However with the car weighing in at circa 2 tonnes they suffer on the track. A few hard laps of a technical circuit or maybe the ring will set you back a full set and around £2k.
Ask M5Mark what he uses, I know he's happy with thier track ability.
Ask M5Mark what he uses, I know he's happy with thier track ability.
I'll start by confirming I've never owned or driven either an M5 or M6 and I think either would be a great addition to any petrolhead's garage.........but
How on earth can BMW give a car like that so much power and then add under performing brakes
I track my 997 and it loves it. The brakes don't fade and I can drive all day without a problem - several times a year, and on the same set of pads and disks.
Sure the M6 weights about 600kg more than my car, but surely they would have put brakes on knowing these cars would be driven fast on a track or a bloody good drive on a Sunday morning?
How on earth can BMW give a car like that so much power and then add under performing brakes
I track my 997 and it loves it. The brakes don't fade and I can drive all day without a problem - several times a year, and on the same set of pads and disks.
Sure the M6 weights about 600kg more than my car, but surely they would have put brakes on knowing these cars would be driven fast on a track or a bloody good drive on a Sunday morning?
As Der says, there really is no brake problem on the M6. Multi piston set-ups do NOT always offer the best braking feel. Once research has been done into standard set-up you will find the clamping forces possible are actually very high.
I think what is perhaps more prevalent is people not knowing how best to use them. Hard fast braking is better than long medium braking for heat dissipation, and that's the name of the game. If anything, change your brake fluid more often and go all braided lines.
I think what is perhaps more prevalent is people not knowing how best to use them. Hard fast braking is better than long medium braking for heat dissipation, and that's the name of the game. If anything, change your brake fluid more often and go all braided lines.
HoHoHo said:
I'll start by confirming I've never owned or driven either an M5 or M6 and I think either would be a great addition to any petrolhead's garage.........but
How on earth can BMW give a car like that so much power and then add under performing brakes
I track my 997 and it loves it. The brakes don't fade and I can drive all day without a problem - several times a year, and on the same set of pads and disks.
Sure the M6 weights about 600kg more than my car, but surely they would have put brakes on knowing these cars would be driven fast on a track or a bloody good drive on a Sunday morning?
If they had designed it to be a track car it wouldn't weight 2 tonnes! It's designed to devour autobahns in consumate ease and therefore the brakes are designed to meet this requirement.How on earth can BMW give a car like that so much power and then add under performing brakes
I track my 997 and it loves it. The brakes don't fade and I can drive all day without a problem - several times a year, and on the same set of pads and disks.
Sure the M6 weights about 600kg more than my car, but surely they would have put brakes on knowing these cars would be driven fast on a track or a bloody good drive on a Sunday morning?
TEKNOPUG said:
HoHoHo said:
I'll start by confirming I've never owned or driven either an M5 or M6 and I think either would be a great addition to any petrolhead's garage.........but
How on earth can BMW give a car like that so much power and then add under performing brakes
I track my 997 and it loves it. The brakes don't fade and I can drive all day without a problem - several times a year, and on the same set of pads and disks.
Sure the M6 weights about 600kg more than my car, but surely they would have put brakes on knowing these cars would be driven fast on a track or a bloody good drive on a Sunday morning?
If they had designed it to be a track car it wouldn't weight 2 tonnes! It's designed to devour autobahns in consumate ease and therefore the brakes are designed to meet this requirement.How on earth can BMW give a car like that so much power and then add under performing brakes
I track my 997 and it loves it. The brakes don't fade and I can drive all day without a problem - several times a year, and on the same set of pads and disks.
Sure the M6 weights about 600kg more than my car, but surely they would have put brakes on knowing these cars would be driven fast on a track or a bloody good drive on a Sunday morning?
Repeated stopping from 150mph would be interesting!
jontysafe said:
If anything, change your brake fluid more often and go all braided lines.
^^^ This.I found my brakes fading after some spirited driving (roads) and changed the brake fluid and added some braided lines, they now last much longer.
The M6 brakes are awesome in normal circumstances, just not for repeated high speed braking without being able to cool them down properly between runs.
The M5 and the M6 use 2-piston calipers at the front. While not on the same level as the 4/6 piston calipers fitted to Porsche, they are perfectly adequate for road use. I took my E61 M5 on the Ring and the only thing that overtook me was a couple of GT3 and a Turbo. No issues with the brakes whatsoever, apart from eating them, but we are talking about BMW standard pads.
Let's be serious here, as others said - it is a nearly 2 tonnes GT, not a track missle. It just happens that it handles very well, and thus can be enjoyed on track too. For your information, Phatgixxer (Angus) on here took his SL65 to a track day at Combe some years back and promptly cooked the huge 6-pot Alcons, which were fitted by AMG as standard spec. Angus is a very good race driver i.e. even 6-pots would struggle to stop a behemot hurtling at ungodly speed towards Quarry...
Let's be serious here, as others said - it is a nearly 2 tonnes GT, not a track missle. It just happens that it handles very well, and thus can be enjoyed on track too. For your information, Phatgixxer (Angus) on here took his SL65 to a track day at Combe some years back and promptly cooked the huge 6-pot Alcons, which were fitted by AMG as standard spec. Angus is a very good race driver i.e. even 6-pots would struggle to stop a behemot hurtling at ungodly speed towards Quarry...
vxdave said:
thanks for the replies. I might do the odd track evening but other than that it will just be road use. Good to know that the standard setup should be ok.
As others have mentioned its a bit heavy for track. ( I have a couple of GT3RS's which are more suitable). However, for a fast run on the road, the M6 is superb, and no brake issues. Here is an old vid of mine flat out on the autobahn:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
A well deserved dollop of diplomatic immunity for The Archdeacon of Ronan, there.
I'm fairly sure we've done two or three Leicestershire airstrips in the old trollop and applying full, anchor brutality from on high, never rendered things as they had and did with all manner of trick, 911 centred, various compound applications.
A tremendous piece of kit, all round, quite frankly.
I'm fairly sure we've done two or three Leicestershire airstrips in the old trollop and applying full, anchor brutality from on high, never rendered things as they had and did with all manner of trick, 911 centred, various compound applications.
A tremendous piece of kit, all round, quite frankly.
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