I'll give the US a miss then, sounds worst than here!
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Police Tie Up 62yr Old Man Then Pepper Spray Him To Death 2011
What was the story behind this... surely he committed some kind of crime??
Police Tie Up 62yr Old Man Then Pepper Spray Him To Death 2011
What was the story behind this... surely he committed some kind of crime??
superkartracer said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nssw1bzBic&fea...
Police Tie Up 62yr Old Man Then Pepper Spray Him To Death 2011
What was the story behind this... surely he committed some kind of crime??
Top comment:Police Tie Up 62yr Old Man Then Pepper Spray Him To Death 2011
What was the story behind this... surely he committed some kind of crime??
wotdoesitmatter said:
Pepper spray is banned for use in war by Article I.5 of the Chemical Weapons Convention
The US uses it on their citizens.
Nice place.
Not.
The US uses it on their citizens.
Nice place.
Not.
kieranjholland said:
Top comment:
Pepper spray is banned for use in war by Article I.5 of the Chemical Weapons Convention
The US uses it on their citizens.
Nice place.
Not.
Top comment? sorry buts thats just silly. Pepper spray is banned for use in war by Article I.5 of the Chemical Weapons Convention
The US uses it on their citizens.
Nice place.
Not.
Would you rather he be subdued with pepper sprey or 9mm winchester ranger SXT or a batton to the head? The police use pepper sprey and other systems to try and do as little injury to the suspect not the other way around and they do it also to protect themslves when criminals go ballistic because they dont like being aressted.
To compair rules of war with doemstic police policy not really fair. PS you also have to use Ball amo in war but police can use jacketed hollow points.
Hold on guys Don't get me wrong it looks horrendous abuse without any other facts just playing devils advocate here.
Why did he have a spit mask on ? let me guess was he spitting at them? if so thats his fault
Why was he restrained? Was he attacking them? if he was tough st his fault
Why was he arrested in the first place? was he being mouthy to the police while being drunk?
Just a suggestion if you get arrested even if you are innocent be polite and 99.9 times out of a 100 you wont get killed by the police.
Kick off and act like a dick, get viloent and resist? well chances are your will get hurt somehow.
Kick off at every opportunity every minute you are in there and you might, might just get left tied to a chair covered in pepper sprey for the evening.
But who knows he may have been perfectly polite and they just didnt like the look of him.
Edited by Pesty on Thursday 29th December 02:58
I can reflect on this, my father got stopped and held for an hour on his way into the US. He has a US passport, he is retired forces of 24 years. Reason was because of my British Mother and the fact that he attempted to walk through the "non US Passport holders line" with us.
They are complete
s, if only they knew just how bad they make the US and people within it look.
They are complete
s, if only they knew just how bad they make the US and people within it look. Pesty said:
Top comment? sorry buts thats just silly.
Would you rather he be subdued with pepper sprey or 9mm winchester ranger SXT or a batton to the head? The police use pepper sprey and other systems to try and do as little injury to the suspect not the other way around and they do it also to protect themslves when criminals go ballistic because they dont like being aressted.
To compair rules of war with doemstic police policy not really fair. PS you also have to use Ball amo in war but police can use jacketed hollow points.
Hold on guys Don't get me wrong it looks horrendous abuse without any other facts just playing devils advocate here.
Why did he have a spit mask on ? let me guess was he spitting at them? if so thats his fault
Why was he restrained? Was he attacking them? if he was tough st his fault
Why was he arrested in the first place? was he being mouthy to the police while being drunk?
Just a suggestion if you get arrested even if you are innocent be polite and 99.9 times out of a 100 you wont get killed by the police.
Kick off and act like a dick, get viloent and resist? well chances are your will get hurt somehow.
Kick off at every opportunity every minute you are in there and you might, might just get left tied to a chair covered in pepper sprey for the evening.
But who knows he may have been perfectly polite and they just didnt like the look of him.
I've never seen so many spelling mistakes in one post. Are you an American?Would you rather he be subdued with pepper sprey or 9mm winchester ranger SXT or a batton to the head? The police use pepper sprey and other systems to try and do as little injury to the suspect not the other way around and they do it also to protect themslves when criminals go ballistic because they dont like being aressted.
To compair rules of war with doemstic police policy not really fair. PS you also have to use Ball amo in war but police can use jacketed hollow points.
Hold on guys Don't get me wrong it looks horrendous abuse without any other facts just playing devils advocate here.
Why did he have a spit mask on ? let me guess was he spitting at them? if so thats his fault
Why was he restrained? Was he attacking them? if he was tough st his fault
Why was he arrested in the first place? was he being mouthy to the police while being drunk?
Just a suggestion if you get arrested even if you are innocent be polite and 99.9 times out of a 100 you wont get killed by the police.
Kick off and act like a dick, get viloent and resist? well chances are your will get hurt somehow.
Kick off at every opportunity every minute you are in there and you might, might just get left tied to a chair covered in pepper sprey for the evening.
But who knows he may have been perfectly polite and they just didnt like the look of him.
Edited by Pesty on Thursday 29th December 02:58
It's a different culture. For example they have the right to bear arms which if I was a police officer would make me take a different approach to a UK officer. Just because their language is similar to ours doesn't mean we can expect them to be the same as us. You wouldn't travel thousands of miles to some Middle East or Asian state and expect them to be as us - yet somehow people expect it of the US. Two US girlfriends and visiting my brother when working there gave me a little insight into US culture and it is different but I liked it.
Edited by UnderTheRadar on Thursday 29th December 05:14
Stu R said:
Love how easy the hard of thinking can generalise 300+ million people 
Hope you weren't talking about me 
I'm almost certainly hard of thinking but I appreciate the differences of culture both from east to west and north to south. I don't think many appreciate you could pick up the UK with all it's social divides and sectarianism and drop it into Texas without a ripple.Boozy said:
So you'd dismiss an entire country and it's people based on the folks working at the immigration desk?
First impressions last 
Air NZ fly home from London alternating between Los Angeles and the Far East. Travellers have to get off the plane at LA, go through US immigration and then reboard. For some reason this direction is far less popular!
I've only had one incident at Neward. The immigration officer was an obnoxious tt. Short story I'd been the previous year for 2 weeks couldn't remember the exact dates but it was we shall say December. The IO was constantly trying to trick me into saying I'd stayed longer than my two weeks and implied I'd been living their illegally. Had to cut him short and say that my passport shows I'd been here for 2 weeks. If I somehow managed to get my passport stamped but stayed in the country then I'm a bit smarter than you're giving me credit for and you're silly questions aren't going to trip me up. I try and avoid upsetting IO's and people who serve me food but everyone once in a while someone pushes my buttons. Never had any trouble since.
t. Short story I'd been the previous year for 2 weeks couldn't remember the exact dates but it was we shall say December. The IO was constantly trying to trick me into saying I'd stayed longer than my two weeks and implied I'd been living their illegally. Had to cut him short and say that my passport shows I'd been here for 2 weeks. If I somehow managed to get my passport stamped but stayed in the country then I'm a bit smarter than you're giving me credit for and you're silly questions aren't going to trip me up. I try and avoid upsetting IO's and people who serve me food but everyone once in a while someone pushes my buttons. Never had any trouble since. Never had a problem with the TSA guys, sure sometimes they aren't all that cheery, but would you be after 8 hours of swiping passports ?
Anyway, back to this guy - apparently the incident was in 2009. He was arrested several times before being detained and was suffering some sort of breakdown and was on a long list of medication which the police were not aware of, neither did they have medical records.
Homicide trial set up for 2012.
Anyway, back to this guy - apparently the incident was in 2009. He was arrested several times before being detained and was suffering some sort of breakdown and was on a long list of medication which the police were not aware of, neither did they have medical records.
Homicide trial set up for 2012.
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