Cobra Valuation?
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bigblock

Original Poster:

782 posts

227 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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There is a Cobra currently advertised for auction by Coys in the PH classifieds (AC pre '69 section). I would post a link but it appears to be against the rules.

The car is advertised as a 1964 289 by Autocraft. Further reading reveals that it was made in the 1980's and given the chassis number of an original 1964 Cobra 289 believed to have been written off.

Further investigation reveals that the Autocraft car was given Chassis number COB6042 and that rather surprisingly the original 1964 COB6042 is alive and well and regularly attending events in the USA.

What I find hard to understand is how Coys have arrived at a sales estimate of between £185,000 and £195,000 given that other Autokraft Cobras sell for around half of this estimate.

If the inflated figure is due to the car carrying an authentic 1964 AC chassis number even although it is not claiming to be that car, then this would be a rather undesirable precedent for an auction house to set. Especially because the original car carrying that chassis number is still very much in existence.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Surprised it hasn’t been pulled from sale, as it's a tad naughty to do that . . . . . if not illegal

mph

2,376 posts

311 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Nothing would surprise me about Coys.

Why not drop them a line and ask ? I'll bet money that they'll tell you to get lost.

There was a Bogus Porsche Turbo for sale there some time back. The thread is somewhere on PH.

I wrote and told them that the car was orignally LHD and had been written-off in mainland Europe (can't remember where exactly) and then the remains brought here and (badly) rebuilt. I said that they should include this information in the Auction description.

They wrote back and told me it was irrelevant information !


aeropilot

40,524 posts

256 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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In most descriptions I've seen when referring to this car (except Coys rolleyes) it's chassis number is written as COB6042#2.

bigblock

Original Poster:

782 posts

227 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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In fairness to Coys I was not suggesting that they were trying to pass it off as the original car but I was concerned that they were trying to inflate its value by the dubious use of an original 1964 chassis number.

lowdrag

13,181 posts

242 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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Twice I have tried to buy cars from them in Twickenham, countless times I left messages and never got a call back, so I did my research on the adverts and surprise surprise the last car I was interested in they:-

1) Didn't own.
2) Didn't physically have the car to show
3) The owner was rather surprised too!

aeropilot

40,524 posts

256 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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lowdrag said:
Twice I have tried to buy cars from them in Twickenham, countless times I left messages and never got a call back, so I did my research on the adverts and surprise surprise the last car I was interested in they:-

1) Didn't own.
2) Didn't physically have the car to show
3) The owner was rather surprised too!
yikes

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Friday 30th December 2011
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aeropilot said:
lowdrag said:
Twice I have tried to buy cars from them in Twickenham, countless times I left messages and never got a call back, so I did my research on the adverts and surprise surprise the last car I was interested in they:-

1) Didn't own.
2) Didn't physically have the car to show
3) The owner was rather surprised too!
yikes
And that’s all without getting into the nonsense of 2004 . . . . .

bigblock

Original Poster:

782 posts

227 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Does anyone know if the Cobra in question actually sold at Coys auction on the 14th and for how much.