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towman

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14,938 posts

262 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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Ok, so I totally lost it today - ended up throwing a cheese roll at a numpty on the M4. Any offence commited?

Here`s what happened - Rolling along the M4 in the truck near Langley, with slow moving (10mph)traffic (for M25) ahead. Slowing gradually in lane 1 when company cowboy in a vectra moves from lane 3 to lane 1 in front of me and hits the brakes. Rather than hit the pillock I end up on the hard shoulder with my cab level with his bonnet. As the tyre smoke cleared I gestured to him that I felt his driving was of a somewhat inferior standard and that he should not be permitted to drive a golf ball. The delightful young man then offered me a coffee (I could see him shaking the beans!) At this point I lost it and threw the remains of a cheese roll at the car!

My point is this - why do numpties in little tin boxes put their lives at risk by pulling stunts like this in front of 38 tonnes of rolling iron? If I hadnt been alert he would probably be dead and I would be involved in a long investigation. Of course it would add a further count to the numbers of fatalities involving HGVs, giving further encouragement to this poxy government in their quest to regulate us out of business.

Thats better, now for a hot bath and a large glass/small vase of port in a darkened room!

Mikey G

4,849 posts

263 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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towman said:
... ended up throwing a cheese roll at a numpty on the M4. Any offence commited?



Littering?

the other point is if you'd hit said numpty you would then have been to blame for driving into the back of him!

>> Edited by Mikey G on Friday 2nd July 03:09

8Pack

5,182 posts

263 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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Cheese Roll y'say! Mmmmh! Assault with a deadly weapon? you're just the sort of maniac who needs to be locked up my man!!

To be serious though, Aw! Do I have to!........Yes! Shut up!...I don't drive HGV, but anyone who overtakes a lorry and then pulls in front of it to brake for a traffic island, road junction, Etc. deserves what they get, "A Good Thrutch up the boot", I guarantee they won't do it again. Just thought I'd "THROW" that one in Towman!

>> Edited by 8Pack on Friday 2nd July 05:53

BliarOut

72,863 posts

262 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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The reason my good man is because lorries just pull out in front of you when you are tootling along and hold you up for five miles before giving up on an overtake. I know it's not your fault as some prick insisted you all do 56 but it's bloody annoying!

Nothing personal, I just hate lorries.

Dibble

13,257 posts

263 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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The thinnest of S5 Public Order Act 1986 offences maybe - using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour likely to cause another harassment, alarm or distress (paraphrased)?

Criminal Damage.

Breach of the Peace.

Common Assault.

Not suggesting that he didn't deserve to get cheese rolled, and he'd obviously commit a S5 POA offence with the "Gareth Hunt coffee beans" gesture.

streaky

19,311 posts

272 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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8Pack said:
Assault with a deadly weapon?
Only if it was a "British Rail" cheese-roll! - Streaky

tvrgit

8,483 posts

275 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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streaky said:

8Pack said:
Assault with a deadly weapon?

Only if it was a "British Rail" cheese-roll! - Streaky

Naw, he threw it, he didn't make him eat it

ftasb

229 posts

262 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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A friend of mine got done for food assault, way, way back in history. He was a stoker on a steamship. Night on the ale in Liverpool, asked to "move along quietly" by good old fashioned 18 stone bobby. He declined the invitation and got some "assistance". He hit the local bobby with a jellied cow heel !!! He reckons it was worth it just to hear him reading from his notebook in court.
" I asked the defendant to move along, when he resisted, upon assisting him to leave the area, he assaulted me with exhibit A, to wit, a jellied cow heel M'lud"

towman

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262 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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BliarOut said:
The reason my good man is because lorries just pull out in front of you when you are tootling along and hold you up for five miles before giving up on an overtake. I know it's not your fault as some prick insisted you all do 56 but it's bloody annoying!

Nothing personal, I just hate lorries.


I Never take things personally, but I think you missed out the word "some" in your post. Most of us worked hard to get a C+E, and want to keep it!

wanty1974

3,704 posts

271 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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Best thing my grandad (who drove ammunition lorries around London during WW2 blackouts ) ever taught me about driving was "if there's one tonne of you and twenty tonnes of lorry, who's gonna win the fight?"

leosayer

7,669 posts

267 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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Roll rage?

plotloss

67,280 posts

293 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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leosayer said:
Roll rage?


volvod5_dude

352 posts

268 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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towman said:

BliarOut said:
The reason my good man is because lorries just pull out in front of you when you are tootling along and hold you up for five miles before giving up on an overtake. I know it's not your fault as some prick insisted you all do 56 but it's bloody annoying!

Nothing personal, I just hate lorries.



I Never take things personally, but I think you missed out the word "some" in your post. Most of us worked hard to get a C+E, and want to keep it!


Good for you M8, some drivers don't know how to behave in the vicinity of HGV's. I know from experience. You try your best to drive safely and some twat cuts in like that.

It took me three goes to get my C+E back in the early 90's, I was really chuffed when I finally passed. Haven't used it for years. Then DVLA recently cancelled it because I developed diabetes.

williamball

4,666 posts

305 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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Now if the bloke had been Transilvanian, and you'd also thrown a couple of sausages on sticks as well, they could have had you for murder.....Buffet the Vampire Slayer

WB

towman

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14,938 posts

262 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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leosayer said:
Roll rage?


Surely "Assault & Buttery"!

Sorry

I`ll get me coat!

robbo64

299 posts

266 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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volvod5_dude said:

towman said:


BliarOut said:
The reason my good man is because lorries just pull out in front of you when you are tootling along and hold you up for five miles before giving up on an overtake. I know it's not your fault as some prick insisted you all do 56 but it's bloody annoying!

Nothing personal, I just hate lorries.




I Never take things personally, but I think you missed out the word "some" in your post. Most of us worked hard to get a C+E, and want to keep it!



Good for you M8, some drivers don't know how to behave in the vicinity of HGV's. I know from experience. You try your best to drive safely and some twat cuts in like that.

It took me three goes to get my C+E back in the early 90's, I was really chuffed when I finally passed. Haven't used it for years. Then DVLA recently cancelled it because I developed diabetes.


Can I please point out something rather important to Bliarout? You might hate lorries now, but if one rammed you up the arse or injured you in a crash you would hate them a hell of a lot more...

These big vehicles on our roads need the respect of everyone... FOR THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

262 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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robbo64 said:

volvod5_dude said:


towman said:



BliarOut said:
The reason my good man is because lorries just pull out in front of you when you are tootling along and hold you up for five miles before giving up on an overtake. I know it's not your fault as some prick insisted you all do 56 but it's bloody annoying!

Nothing personal, I just hate lorries.





I Never take things personally, but I think you missed out the word "some" in your post. Most of us worked hard to get a C+E, and want to keep it!




Good for you M8, some drivers don't know how to behave in the vicinity of HGV's. I know from experience. You try your best to drive safely and some twat cuts in like that.

It took me three goes to get my C+E back in the early 90's, I was really chuffed when I finally passed. Haven't used it for years. Then DVLA recently cancelled it because I developed diabetes.



Can I please point out something rather important to Bliarout? You might hate lorries now, but if one rammed you up the arse or injured you in a crash you would hate them a hell of a lot more...

These big vehicles on our roads need the respect of everyone... FOR THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE.


Err, that's one of the other reasons I hate lorries. I saw some Vauxhall squished between two artics once. It was only a few feet long. The only way you would have got anyone out of that was with a drain plug!

Trains, that's where freight belongs. In the meantime, I'll continue to scowl at the damn things.

tvrgit

8,483 posts

275 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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BliarOut said:
Trains, that's where freight belongs.

So your local Safeway will have its very own rail line and siding instead of a service yard?

It doesn't work!

towman

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14,938 posts

262 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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BliarOut said:


Err, that's one of the other reasons I hate lorries. I saw some Vauxhall squished between two artics once. It was only a few feet long. The only way you would have got anyone out of that was with a drain plug!

Trains, that's where freight belongs. In the meantime, I'll continue to scowl at the damn things.


I`ve seen more than a few cars smashed up in my time - that doesn`t mean i hate all car drivers! The road is there to share - treat other users with respect. If the incident detailed above had resulted in an accident and you had seen my truck buried in the back of the vectra, would you have thought "Another truckie driving badly"? Think about it before you jump to conclusions.

And please lets not hear any more freight on the rails nonsense - bulk freight long distance fair enough, but look at most of the trucks on the road and then do a google for "Sainsburys", "Tesco", "Parcelforce" etc etc etc.

Marcos Maniac

3,148 posts

284 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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All this talk of HGV's has given me an itch! Need to get back behind the wheel again Oh


Agency driving - does it pay well???
quite sure I could manage the odd day here and there