No Electrics and an Auto box
No Electrics and an Auto box
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sparkesp

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298 posts

217 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Leaving home this evening, dark and raining, I approach a 4 exit roundabout i am familiar with, and look to go straight on. Good views all round, and light traffic approaching, so I proceed....

Then I see it, a hand waving out of a car window, with the car stopped at the give way lines of the roundabout, no lights on. The car, a dark coloured ford that blended in to the darkness.

So, I stop, switch hazards on and wind the window down to see 2 older occupants in the car. The door opens, and the passenger informs me that they have lost all electrics and the recovery services are on the way.

Nothing odd you may say, so I offer to help push the car to the verge. The response was "we cant, its an auto and stuck in drive".

Recovery arrives and I go on my way.

Got me thinking though, isn't this a safety issue with auto boxes? I mean if you can lose all electrics, and get stuck in drive and abandoned in a dangerous position I wouldn't want one.

Thoughts?

shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

193 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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If it is stuck in drive it should still push/tow, unless something catastrophic has seized up in the transmission, as without the engine running there will be no hydraulic pressure to engage clutches/bands which is what makes it move.

anonymous-user

76 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Modern autotrannies have a manual parking pawl release lever, usually buried under the centre console somwhere (occasionally, you do have to remove trim to get to them)

ye-olde ones where the lever was actually connected to something mechanical in the tranny, you should be able to manually shift to neutral with the lever

This is, of course, absolutely no help whatsoever if your EBP (electronic park brake) was also engaged before your electrics went on the wonk.....

Iain XR4i

1,703 posts

174 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Stepping outside carries a risk. So does getting in or out of the bath, switching on electric appliances, or lighting the living-room fire.

The odds on anything bad happening from these activities are probably similar to those of something bad happening after losing all electrics in an automatic car.

Doesn't mean it CAN'T happen, just that I wouldn't worry too much about it.

CoolHands

22,115 posts

217 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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yeah they should have a parking release. You may need the manual to find where it is / how to operate it though.

anonymous-user

76 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Iain XR4i said:
So does getting in or out of the bath, switching on electric appliances, or lighting the living-room fire.
I would probably err on the side of caution with switching on electric appliances when actually in the bath however............ biggrin

Eggman

1,253 posts

233 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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It'll most likely be one of these Powershift automated manual boxes rather than a proper automatic.

Complete electrical failures don't exactly happen every day, but given the reliability of other clutchless manual systems (e.g. SeleSpeed) I'm not sure I'd want one.

Iain XR4i

1,703 posts

174 months

Sunday 1st January 2012
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Max_Torque said:
I would probably err on the side of caution with switching on electric appliances when actually in the bath however............ biggrin
Yeah, I've stopped using unleaded on the fire as well!