996 3.6 - new bits on - next project...throttle maps etc...
Discussion
Recently had this little lot on my 996C2:
GT3 Short shift
10mm drop suspension kit (X74 option equivalent I think)
Full suspension component refresh
New brakes front and rear and fluid flush
New Windscreen
Centre Console Delete
New outer track rod (only advisory on MOT but had it done anyway)
Alongside this I recently carried out a service/oil change, and when it stops bloody raining I'll change the coil packs and sparkplugs as I had a coil pack fail me not too long ago.
That's a mix of my work (Brakes and service) and DL Swindon's work. Add that to a new clutch, water pump, IMS housing and rear brake pipe and components in the last six months, suffice to say not particularly cheap, but worth every single penny!
It's taken years off my car - I was happy enough with how it drove before but I could tell the suspension had been on the car since day one with squeaks and rattles every now and then over the past 10k miles. I've got that 'new car' feel back with regard to how solid it feels to drive. I love the quickshift.
I'd missed the bolt action rifle style gearchange of my shortshift equipped AW11SC, and whilst this box never felt vague, the shifter was kind of floppy and without clear definition - easy to not fully engage second and the shift distances were a bit long for me. Now I've got a rock solid, short distance gear change. Not sure exactly what parts are put on because I didn't do it, but the end result really works for me!
The bulk of the work was done this past week, and DL Swindon had my car for three days. I had a 2.9 Boxster for the duration, and I was really impressed with that. I was trying to remember how my Cayman drove, and I don't think the 2.7 engine in the Cayman was anywhere near as responsive as the DFI engine (this one only had 250 miles on it!)- revs very quickly indeed and it didn't have the sport function , and the howl the 2.9 makes up the rev range was addictive for me!
If you're still reading (!) the next step for me is to to see how I could bring those two elements to my car - induction howl and speed up the free revving of my engine (now I can shift faster, the engine seems a little lethargic in revs).
So - Lightweight Flywheel? Different induction? Can I alter the throttle maps?
What say the Phorsche Massive?
Add to that, I aim to get Hartech's low temp thermostat and the centre rad kit in before it warms up again.
Cheers,
Coanda
GT3 Short shift
10mm drop suspension kit (X74 option equivalent I think)
Full suspension component refresh
New brakes front and rear and fluid flush
New Windscreen
Centre Console Delete
New outer track rod (only advisory on MOT but had it done anyway)
Alongside this I recently carried out a service/oil change, and when it stops bloody raining I'll change the coil packs and sparkplugs as I had a coil pack fail me not too long ago.
That's a mix of my work (Brakes and service) and DL Swindon's work. Add that to a new clutch, water pump, IMS housing and rear brake pipe and components in the last six months, suffice to say not particularly cheap, but worth every single penny!
It's taken years off my car - I was happy enough with how it drove before but I could tell the suspension had been on the car since day one with squeaks and rattles every now and then over the past 10k miles. I've got that 'new car' feel back with regard to how solid it feels to drive. I love the quickshift.
I'd missed the bolt action rifle style gearchange of my shortshift equipped AW11SC, and whilst this box never felt vague, the shifter was kind of floppy and without clear definition - easy to not fully engage second and the shift distances were a bit long for me. Now I've got a rock solid, short distance gear change. Not sure exactly what parts are put on because I didn't do it, but the end result really works for me!
The bulk of the work was done this past week, and DL Swindon had my car for three days. I had a 2.9 Boxster for the duration, and I was really impressed with that. I was trying to remember how my Cayman drove, and I don't think the 2.7 engine in the Cayman was anywhere near as responsive as the DFI engine (this one only had 250 miles on it!)- revs very quickly indeed and it didn't have the sport function , and the howl the 2.9 makes up the rev range was addictive for me!
If you're still reading (!) the next step for me is to to see how I could bring those two elements to my car - induction howl and speed up the free revving of my engine (now I can shift faster, the engine seems a little lethargic in revs).
So - Lightweight Flywheel? Different induction? Can I alter the throttle maps?
What say the Phorsche Massive?
Add to that, I aim to get Hartech's low temp thermostat and the centre rad kit in before it warms up again.
Cheers,
Coanda
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 3rd January 16:12
would be interested to know how much your suspension freshen up cost as mines quite rattly and seems to tram line ????
wouldn mind the short shift either.
mine has the sports exhaust and when it gets going sounds nice but at low speed not loud at all (maybe thats a good thing)
sounds as though you have a nice set up now.
let me know how you go with the thermostat as theres been much discussion about them on here
cheers
wouldn mind the short shift either.
mine has the sports exhaust and when it gets going sounds nice but at low speed not loud at all (maybe thats a good thing)
sounds as though you have a nice set up now.
let me know how you go with the thermostat as theres been much discussion about them on here
cheers
would be interested to know how much your suspension freshen up cost as mines quite rattly and seems to tram line ????
wouldn mind the short shift either.
mine has the sports exhaust and when it gets going sounds nice but at low speed not loud at all (maybe thats a good thing)
sounds as though you have a nice set up now.
let me know how you go with the thermostat as theres been much discussion about them on here
cheers
wouldn mind the short shift either.
mine has the sports exhaust and when it gets going sounds nice but at low speed not loud at all (maybe thats a good thing)
sounds as though you have a nice set up now.
let me know how you go with the thermostat as theres been much discussion about them on here
cheers
nev996 said:
would be interested to know how much your suspension freshen up cost as mines quite rattly and seems to tram line ????
wouldn mind the short shift either.
mine has the sports exhaust and when it gets going sounds nice but at low speed not loud at all (maybe thats a good thing)
sounds as though you have a nice set up now.
let me know how you go with the thermostat as theres been much discussion about them on here
cheers
hi nev, sent you a pm.wouldn mind the short shift either.
mine has the sports exhaust and when it gets going sounds nice but at low speed not loud at all (maybe thats a good thing)
sounds as though you have a nice set up now.
let me know how you go with the thermostat as theres been much discussion about them on here
cheers
adrian
OlberJ - I know you from the MR2 community? TB?
Suspension.
When I asked OPC Swindon what they could get in terms of suspension for my 01 plate 996 C2 from Porsche, the reply was:
1. Standard replacements
2. 10mm drop upgrade kit
3. 30mm drop upgrade kit
I dismissed the standard replacements because I knew I already wanted the car lowered.
I had seen a Porsche 10mm drop kit advertised on Design 911 for new shocks, springs, ARBs/mounts and rear bump stops for £650+VAT (see here). This seems to fit with the suspension component of the ROW M030 Option Code listed in Streathers '996 The Essential Companion' page 273. I knew that this would only be the start of a suspension upgrade refresh, and that I'd have to buy most other parts/bushes to go with this kit. I've seen a thread on here regarding a suspension refresh and the amount of snapped bolts etc so I knew it would take me too long to do on the floor out in the cold. Therefore I chose to give this work to OPC Swindon - I was also quoted a better price than that on Design 911 for the kit. Part number P000.044.500.27 is quoted on my invoice for this kit.
In the end, dissimilar metal corrosion had gotten the better of quite a few bits and pieces, so there was significant renewal of fixings and also new drop links and a rear suspension arm which had seized solid. I'm told plenty of drilling and angle grinding was needed! As a matter of course, the top mounts were also replaced. Not unusual for cars of this age and older that haven't had the suspension worked on before.
Budget £2500.00 for this job if done by an OPC and it'll probably take about 3 man-days. This includes a wheel alignment. I had my car in over the quiet period after Christmas so it might take longer than that - depends on the state of the car I suppose.
I would have preferred the 30mm drop kit in terms of appearance/stance, but useability would have suffered too much for me - the bottom lip wouldn't have lasted one journey to work on the roads I use. This kit starts at about £2100 - I don't think these were coilovers.
The shifter Part number is quoted as P000.044.700.26 and cost 237.61+VAT from Porsche.
Centre Console Delete (P986.552.113.02 but check for different interior colours) looks to be two pieces - a part to cover over the centre console and a part to cover over the bulkhead area. It looks like the parts are about £100 and fitting it seems to be really simple.
Labour was all lumped in together so I can't separate all that out.
If you are in the area and looking at this sort of work I can highly recommend OPC Swindon. Great people, very happy with the work soo far, and also happy with the final invoice versus list....
Suspension.
When I asked OPC Swindon what they could get in terms of suspension for my 01 plate 996 C2 from Porsche, the reply was:
1. Standard replacements
2. 10mm drop upgrade kit
3. 30mm drop upgrade kit
I dismissed the standard replacements because I knew I already wanted the car lowered.
I had seen a Porsche 10mm drop kit advertised on Design 911 for new shocks, springs, ARBs/mounts and rear bump stops for £650+VAT (see here). This seems to fit with the suspension component of the ROW M030 Option Code listed in Streathers '996 The Essential Companion' page 273. I knew that this would only be the start of a suspension upgrade refresh, and that I'd have to buy most other parts/bushes to go with this kit. I've seen a thread on here regarding a suspension refresh and the amount of snapped bolts etc so I knew it would take me too long to do on the floor out in the cold. Therefore I chose to give this work to OPC Swindon - I was also quoted a better price than that on Design 911 for the kit. Part number P000.044.500.27 is quoted on my invoice for this kit.
In the end, dissimilar metal corrosion had gotten the better of quite a few bits and pieces, so there was significant renewal of fixings and also new drop links and a rear suspension arm which had seized solid. I'm told plenty of drilling and angle grinding was needed! As a matter of course, the top mounts were also replaced. Not unusual for cars of this age and older that haven't had the suspension worked on before.
Budget £2500.00 for this job if done by an OPC and it'll probably take about 3 man-days. This includes a wheel alignment. I had my car in over the quiet period after Christmas so it might take longer than that - depends on the state of the car I suppose.
I would have preferred the 30mm drop kit in terms of appearance/stance, but useability would have suffered too much for me - the bottom lip wouldn't have lasted one journey to work on the roads I use. This kit starts at about £2100 - I don't think these were coilovers.
The shifter Part number is quoted as P000.044.700.26 and cost 237.61+VAT from Porsche.
Centre Console Delete (P986.552.113.02 but check for different interior colours) looks to be two pieces - a part to cover over the centre console and a part to cover over the bulkhead area. It looks like the parts are about £100 and fitting it seems to be really simple.
Labour was all lumped in together so I can't separate all that out.
If you are in the area and looking at this sort of work I can highly recommend OPC Swindon. Great people, very happy with the work soo far, and also happy with the final invoice versus list....
OlberJ said:
Watching with interest. With the price of tired 996 C2's as they are, spending a few bob to make it back into a tastier good one is awfy appealing.
Idea of costs involved would be grand.
Well, I'm kind of thinking that could be a possible route for some of these cars. I'm of the opinion that a lot of these cars are going to disappear over the next couple of years. A lot of them are falling into the hands of people who can't afford to look after them properly - a 10k car to buy that could easily cost 5k in a year to look after - and that's just keeping one in tip-top. I could never do it, but a lot of people sell cars just before they need major work, so I think the first year of ownership for a 996 owner can be very expensive if s/he wants the best out of their car.Idea of costs involved would be grand.
I think a bit of positive PR can't hurt either, and people out enjoying and looking after their 996s can do that.
This model has taken a bit of a kicking recently, and I don't think it deserves the vast majority of it to be honest with you. I think it is very important to understand the limitations of what you have ,and I've never wanted to to do anything more than that - understand what can go wrong and why it goes wrong. Then hopefully I can be proactive in looking after my car. Rather than making uninformed jibes about grenading and how you just know it's going to ruin you if you bought one! I can't see that that's a molehill worth making a mountain out of - simple mechanical sympathy should look after all this. Yep, Porsche made some interesting engineering decisions with this engine. I've got to live with those decisions so I act accordingly. Not that I'm about traffic light grand prixs anyway.
Anyhow - mostly I like the feeling that this is 'my' car. There are many like it, but this one is mine! - I've made clear decisions about how it looks and drives. Same with my AW11 - I'm putting a lot of thought into how that'll look, drive and handle. It'll be far more to me than just a car for moving faster than I can walk or run between A and B.
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