just got 645ci , but not exactly a newbie

[tregger]

had a turbulent 3 years of cars(listed below) but hope i,m settled for a while , collected E63 645ci/black/54reg/65k covered/loaded to the gunnel,s with all sytner serviced , what a noise, what a machine !!
sold my 07/520d tourer sport last sept after 6 months , overall disappointed with the ride,the performance(even after remap) & not greatly impressed with the mpg , 28 town/ 36 average / 43 best
have had 911,s in the past but wanted performance,comfort,styling & on board goodies , once testdriven it was a no brainer , am prepared to put extra in the tank for getting the drive i was after , but am i alone on here ? have scanned 1st 10 pages & barely a mention of the 6 ?
feb 2009 touareg / 911 aircooled / 911 watercooled/ 5sport / lexus 300 / now 645coupe

[gf15]

Hi there & welcome to 6'er club,

These seem to be a well kept secret. I am 8 months and ~11k miles into ownership of my 2005 650 Coupe, now up to 57k miles and loving it. Not a single issue to date. Drives beautifully, great noise, fuel economy is suprisingly good. No squeeks or rattles. Stereo is superb. Just serviced at local specialist, clean bill of health.
Feels very special everytime I get into it.

I hope the 6'er exceeds your expectations. Enjoy!

Edited by gf15 on Tuesday 3rd January 21:42

[tregger]

as i drove the car away with 150miles drive ahead i most definitely felt like i,d robbed the guy .
he,d owned since it was 6 months old, 65k covered, only ever been to sytners & serviced 1000miles ago(new front pads,spark plugs/brake fluid & 4 bridgestones)
think the only extra it hasn,t got is HUD which i can live without ,
recently sold a 911 on 98/S plate for £13k which i was missing but the 6 has filled the void with panache & performance for a crazy price !! £9500 !! & the cherry ? insured it on "future classic" car policy with classicline , £490/yr fully comp/2 drivers/5K mileage
couldn't be happier

[5678]

Enjoy. These are a real bargain at the moment. People are just too scared of a large petrol engine and this has hit prices hard. I really love my 650. If I didn't need 4 doors and more load space, it would be a keeper.

[Patrick Bateman]

650i Manual is something I've been thinking about a few years down the line.

Always quite liked them, rare as well.

[pilchardthecat]

Patrick Bateman said:

Always quite liked them, rare as well.

BMW lose out in the big-petrol-wafter market because of their image. Maturer drivers drift off to Merc/Jag/etc when they get to that stage, so there are bargains to be had.

[scz4]

Patrick Bateman said:

650i Manual is something I've been thinking about a few years down the line.

Always quite liked them, rare as well.

I've got a 550i M Sport Touring with a manual box, only 7 in the UK. I'd imagine a 650i manual is just as rare.

[5678]

scz4 said:

Patrick Bateman said:

650i Manual is something I've been thinking about a few years down the line.

Always quite liked them, rare as well.

I've got a 550i M Sport Touring with a manual box, only 7 in the UK. I'd imagine a 650i manual is just as rare.

When looking for my car I found only one manual 630. IMO, the car suits the Auto. It's not a car for hustling. Too big, too heavy.

[Patrick Bateman]

5678 said:

When looking for my car I found only one manual 630. IMO, the car suits the Auto. It's not a car for hustling. Too big, too heavy.

If I only had one car it would be manual, I'd miss not changing gear regardless.

[5678]

Patrick Bateman said:

5678 said:

When looking for my car I found only one manual 630. IMO, the car suits the Auto. It's not a car for hustling. Too big, too heavy.

If I only had one car it would be manual, I'd miss not changing gear regardless.

I used to think like that.

[Patrick Bateman]

Less likely to go pop as well.

[tregger]

one of the reasons for selling the 911 was the box , convinced myself that it had to be manual for a more connected drive but for me it spoilt the whole driving pleasure ,if i had bought a tip i may well still have it, the box & clutch were slick enough but i just prefer auto,s , especially with 333bhp ,
no regrets with my decision , loving the 6 , sounds great , looks great & goes like s**t through a goose !!

[5678]

Patrick Bateman said:

Less likely to go pop as well.

Not aware of any issues on the E63 auto box. Other than a few odd problems with the 4.4ltr engine they are pretty robust.

[Patrick Bateman]

I can believe that but at the same time we'll see what happens as more of these get into the high mileages.

After all, how many folk do you ever see posting about a manual gearbox stting itself compared with any autos.

[Johnky90]

autobox at 50~60k, usually gets leak in gear sump,(which is plastic..)
that's the only problem I had on my 6er(2006) at 39k on the clock, it was under warranty but would have been 600quid without it
i had no problems other than that
i have mates who drive 645ci,(all 5 of them driving 2004 645ci)
all of them had over 55k mileage and the common problems they had were
'gearbox sump warped', 'oil leak', 'warped discs', 'active steering fault', 'idling problems', and 'convertible top mechanisms like the locking device, etc for e64'.

a lot of people tried fitting M6 brakes, upgraded discs and aftermarket ones,, 90% had warped discs after 3~4k miles.
keep it standard, 6ers don't like anything other than it's own stuff..

one of those 5 friends of mine had many problems with his car, bought it at around 50k i remember..spent near 5grand last year just to keep it going.. he is unlucky but he isn't the only one had many problems..

but obviously these big cruisers certainly need to be taken care of well if thrown hard and I believe you get what you paid for..or rather more than what you paid for.

just enjoy your new ride and drive safely on cold roads as tails go very lively..
glad you went for the mighty 6er!!

[tregger]

good info , ,what issues / costs were involved with the active steering & idling problems ?
as the car is loaded with gadgetry i got a "used car" warranty quote from BMW (£780/£250 excess) & Warranty direct (£670/£100 excess)
i don't expect to run it for free & have no qualms spending on regular service stuff like discs/pads/tyres etc

[Johnky90]

tregger said:

good info , ,what issues / costs were involved with the active steering & idling problems ?
as the car is loaded with gadgetry i got a "used car" warranty quote from BMW (£780/£250 excess) & Warranty direct (£670/£100 excess)
i don't expect to run it for free & have no qualms spending on regular service stuff like discs/pads/tyres etc

i strongly recommend you to get a warranty if possible.
warranty is available to any cars that were serviced at BMW only with less than 100,000miles when quoted.
steering fault is not that common but happens sometimes and never seen one completely fixed..
not sure if its got to do with 'Active' steering but what happens is that they get Active steering fault warning on the dash, this happens to the early models with key start (not push button) and usually solved by
putting ignition to pos 2 without starting;
turn steering wheel all the way left, all the way right, and then centre;
switch off ign and wait 10 secs;
start car and active steering will be reinitialised.

that method also depends on different cars.. some adjustments to it usually do the job
but then.. apparently it comes up again sometime later.

they sometimes go wrong together with dynamic drive fault, this guy had his springs changed to lower the car
i remember his problem was something to do with the bolt securing the bottom of the steering spindle

idling problem was that some cars would start up but RPM will dance around from 300 to 4000rpm and eventually turns off. i can't remember what the fault was.. but seen 2 cars having this problem. they were okay after being warmed up

i'm no expert so perhaps it's better if you join some BMW clubs/forums around and do some search.
however, i'm not trying to make u nervous or worry about the car, i wish you enjoy it and hopefully nothing will go wrong.
post some pics if possible,

Edited by Johnky90 on Wednesday 4th January 18:41

[tali1]

scz4 said:

Patrick Bateman said:

650i Manual is something I've been thinking about a few years down the line.

Always quite liked them, rare as well.

I've got a 550i M Sport Touring with a manual box, only 7 in the UK. I'd imagine a 650i manual is just as rare.

DVLA say 11 and only 3 x 550 SE Touring manuals
Surprisingly 57 x 650i manuals (even 3 on Atrader)
Think i have only ever saw 1x 550 regardless of auto/manual!

[tregger]

only had a week & rained constantly so pics not done yet , here,s the car from advert

[Johnky90]

tregger said:

only had a week & rained constantly so pics not done yet , here,s the car from advert

sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stunning looking car that is!