Help for a whisky noob
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ReaperCushions

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7,523 posts

212 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Just looking for some help from a whisky noob.

I was given £40 John Lewis / waitrose vouchers for Xmas from work and I wanted to spend them on something consumable but long lasting.

I have probably had about 3 whiskys in my life before and found them all a bit too 'harsh', they would have all however been cheap rubbish.

So what would you recommend for a whisky newbie, with £40 or so to spend in Waitrose? Happy to put a few quid of my own in to get something nice. I guess nothing too harsh / strong maybe something to start me off on a trail of collecting and sampling?

Sorry for another whisky thread, didnt want to clog up the other one with daft questions!

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Jammiedodger

634 posts

226 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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It comes down to personal tastes, but I'm just starting to get into whiskies and I currently have:

12 year Balvenie Signature Cask ~£30
10 year Macallan ~£30

My favourite is the Macallan, it's smooth and a little bit sweet...very easy to taste.

You don't have to spend a lot of money to find a good one.

Have you tried a whisky tasting session? I found it really useful to learn about the different regions whisky is made, and why it tastes different etc... Lots of fun!

Good luck!

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

197 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Waitrose, were,and almost without doubt still are, on the run up to Xmas selling some 20 cl sizes of great whisky.

From memory, Taliser 10, Lagavulin 16 , Caol Ila 12....perhaps some others.

All 3 are *stonking* whiskies, you should get them all well inside your voucher ceiling.

You will also get to find out if you like stonking Islay malts. biggrin

If you want to fall onto just one botlle...it's Springbank 10 (perhaps with a touch of water) . No water in the first ones mind.... shoot


Riff Raff

5,458 posts

223 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Cheese Mechanic said:
You will also get to find out if you like stonking Islay malts. biggrin
I wouldn't recommend anybody just getting into Whiskies to try any of the Islay or Skye malts. (in the sense that they end up thinking they are representative of whiskies in general). It took me years to get to like them (and not for want of trying, my father and some of his friends were into Islay in a big way). A big glass of Laphroaig when I was in my teens put me off whisky for years.

For a tyro, I think something like The Glenlivet would be good, as would a Glenfiddich or a Glenmorangie. I'm not a big fan of The Macallan myself, especially the sherried ones. I like Highland Park too - that's a nice smooth dram.


Edited by Riff Raff on Wednesday 4th January 18:49

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228 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Riff Raff said:
Cheese Mechanic said:
You will also get to find out if you like stonking Islay malts. biggrin
I wouldn't recommend anybody just getting into Whiskies to try any of the Islay or Skye malts. It took me years to get to like them (and not for want of trying, my father and some of his friends were into Islay in a big way). A big glass of Laphroaig when I was in my teens put me off whisky for years.

For a tyro, I think something like The Glenlivet would be good, as would a Glenfiddich or a Glenmorangie. I'm not a big fan of The Macallan myself, especially the sherried ones. I like Highland Park too - that's a nice smooth dram.
Agree totally - I've known a couple of people trying whiskies for the first time and on being given Caol Ila basically said it reminded them of dettol.. you want to try something like Auchentoshan - very very smooth - it's one of the two I think triple distilled Scottish malts - very easy to the palate. Glen Moray is another easy drinker - Speysides all the way..

ReaperCushions

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212 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Excellent thanks chaps really useful. Could someone explain (or point me towards it!) an explaination of the different types / regions? Bit of bed time reading I think.

Just discovered half a bottle of 10 year old Glenmorangie at the back of the spirts cabinet (must have been there for years!)

Might give that a go with a spot of water / ice tonight too see how I get on with it.

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I'll give you an update

Lefty

20,948 posts

230 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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ReaperCushions said:
Excellent thanks chaps really useful. Could someone explain (or point me towards it!) an explaination of the different types / regions? Bit of bed time reading I think.

Just discovered half a bottle of 10 year old Glenmorangie at the back of the spirts cabinet (must have been there for years!)

Might give that a go with a spot of water / ice tonight too see how I get on with it.

smile

I'll give you an update
I've not got too much to add, some excellent advice been given already.

Don't be afraid to add as much water as it takes for you to enjoy a dram but I wouldn't put ice in it if I were you. Great for a nice summer drink but it will chill your palate and you're going to miss a lot of the subtle flavours from ANY dram by adding ice.

Anyway, that Glenmo would be a good place to start but, after "years", it might be a bit dull!

Slainte!
Iain

P.s. google "whisky flavour map", it should be helpful!

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

209 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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ReaperCushions said:
Just discovered half a bottle of 10 year old Glenmorangie at the back of the spirts cabinet (must have been there for years!)

I'll give you an update
Beware - years of air - sat around. Probably won't be representative of a good 'fresh' dram. That said, personally I wouldn't think the Morangie would move as much as some other drams.

My suggestions based on your comments - Dalwhinnie 15, classic easy drinking malt (and they may have a smaller bottle in store (20cl) - Royal Lochnagar (on offer at present) - and for a blend it would be Black Grouse for me.

For the other whiskyheads - I would point out they have Ardbeg 10 on offer at present - join the queue !

CatScan

214 posts

177 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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If you really want smooth try Irish whiskey. The grains are cooked in an open kiln so the smoke escapes and doesnt permeate through the flavours.

I'd go for a nice bottle of Bushmills, as old as you can afford. Alternatively try Black Bush, made by the same crowd but aged in Sherry casks like Jameson, but nicer than Jameson.

pacman1

7,324 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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CatScan said:
If you really want smooth try Irish whiskey. The grains are cooked in an open kiln so the smoke escapes and doesnt permeate through the flavours.

I'd go for a nice bottle of Bushmills, as old as you can afford. Alternatively try Black Bush, made by the same crowd but aged in Sherry casks like Jameson, but nicer than Jameson.
Ah haaa. I like Jameson's so shall investigate. As an 'old' new whiskey drinker, my palette is inclined to drams which taste less like normal whiskey, as I used to know it, if you see what I mean.
I like peat, Laphroaig is my current best find, Aardbeg slightly less so, but my side of the tracks.

Chicken Chaser

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252 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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I like water in all of mine, including the Islays. In fact, I'll say that I'm more of a peaty fan than I am of an Aberdeenshire malt. Laphroaig is a personal favourite.

PaulHogan

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Wednesday 4th January 2012
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pacman1

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Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Ta for that, will be my new desktop wallpaper! biggrin

Didn't realise how out on the fringe my taste buds were. hehe

pacman1

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221 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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scratchchin Not tried it, but where might Bruichladdich be on that chart then? A mate of mine keeps banging on about it.

Lefty

20,948 posts

230 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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PaulHogan said:
Hmmm, there's a better one on the wall in my pub, i'll try to find an image of it online, it's got about 150 drams on it (not just the diageo ones).

Riff Raff

5,458 posts

223 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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pacman1 said:
scratchchin Not tried it, but where might Bruichladdich be on that chart then? A mate of mine keeps banging on about it.
I don't think you could say. I'm a big fan of Bruichladdich (even though I am a Scot and I have no idea how to pronounce it), as all the expressions I've tried are so different. Unlike most single malts where you can go into a supermarket and be presented with for example a choice of a Glenfiddich 12, or 15 or even in some places an 18, you don't often see straight years expressions for Bruichladdich. At least in the places I buy at. You do however see lots of one off expressions, and these can range from something that out TCP's a Laphroig to something that only has a hint of a typical western isles whisky (if such a thing exists).

The first bottle I bought was for a Xmas present for my Dad quite a few years ago now. It was a limited bottling called WMD II - The Yellow Submarine. We opened it on Xmas day and polished it off in a couple of days. It was a belter. I was hooked. Ever since, if I see a bottle somewhere (and not many places stock it), I'll buy one, and wait with anticipation to see what it tastes like.

Lefty

20,948 posts

230 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Riff Raff said:
pacman1 said:
scratchchin Not tried it, but where might Bruichladdich be on that chart then? A mate of mine keeps banging on about it.
I don't think you could say. I'm a big fan of Bruichladdich (even though I am a Scot and I have no idea how to pronounce it), as all the expressions I've tried are so different. Unlike most single malts where you can go into a supermarket and be presented with for example a choice of a Glenfiddich 12, or 15 or even in some places an 18, you don't often see straight years expressions for Bruichladdich. At least in the places I buy at. You do however see lots of one off expressions, and these can range from something that out TCP's a Laphroig to something that only has a hint of a typical western isles whisky (if such a thing exists).

The first bottle I bought was for a Xmas present for my Dad quite a few years ago now. It was a limited bottling called WMD II - The Yellow Submarine. We opened it on Xmas day and polished it off in a couple of days. It was a belter. I was hooked. Ever since, if I see a bottle somewhere (and not many places stock it), I'll buy one, and wait with anticipation to see what it tastes like.
Brew-claddy

Or

Brook-laddie

Definitely not Brew-ey-clad-ich or Brooch-lad-ich

;-)



cheddar

4,637 posts

202 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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CatScan said:
If you really want smooth try Irish whiskey. The grains are cooked in an open kiln so the smoke escapes and doesnt permeate through the flavours.

I'd go for a nice bottle of Bushmills, as old as you can afford. Alternatively try Black Bush, made by the same crowd but aged in Sherry casks like Jameson, but nicer than Jameson.
Absolutely - this.

Riff Raff

5,458 posts

223 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Lefty said:
Brew-claddy

Or

Brook-laddie

Definitely not Brew-ey-clad-ich or Brooch-lad-ich

;-)
See, that's what I don't get. I can't think of any place name, or word even, in Scots that has a ch in it that isn't pronounced as you would 'Och'

Puzzled, I am. smile

madbadger

11,752 posts

272 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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I'll second the Dalwhinnie 15.

Very smooth and not overly challenging. (Meant in a good way)

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