Where are all the manual 456s ???
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simonigrale said:
Are you talking about cars for sale all over Europe?
Just Switzerland. Was only making point that in my market most cars are manual. Just looked at Autoscout24.de for 456s across Europe (but not UK). Of 106 456s for sale only 28 were autos. So lack of manuals may be unique to the UK.burriana said:
I would not mind an auto in a 456, but I just remember seeing one in bits at RMD in Manchester, awaiting some part that was very scarce and being told that a replacement box was £25k!
How robust are the auto boxes and, are they fairly easy to repair if bits break?
The auto-box in a 456 is actually designed and built by a UK company - a brand new one is £9k but they can refurb units for less than half that.How robust are the auto boxes and, are they fairly easy to repair if bits break?
Why are there so many panicky-scary stories about Ferraris?
Schnellmann said:
simonigrale said:
Are you talking about cars for sale all over Europe?
Just Switzerland. Was only making point that in my market most cars are manual. Just looked at Autoscout24.de for 456s across Europe (but not UK). Of 106 456s for sale only 28 were autos. So lack of manuals may be unique to the UK.burriana said:
So how robust are they Steve? I have always had manual Ferraris but, the thought of wafting around in a hugely powerful V12 GT is quite appealing 
Yeah me too, plus the seats in the back are useful if you have little ones. If i bought another 348 or 355 or even a TR how much would I use it with a growing family?I thought the Auto box was a ZF 4 Speed - How much different can it be to a BMW box ?
I know you have to have the gearbox serviced which isn't too much but when it goes pop I've heard repairs are costly.
of all the ferraris, i think a mint low mileage manual 456 in a good colour represents one of the most appealing long term investments... whilst all the obvious ferarris have been leaping up in value, the 456 is yet to rise.
my view on future classics is always to go for a car which was not subsequently bettered... sure, you can get a 612 with a manual box, but the lines are not as effortless as those of the 456.
in 10yrs time, what could be better than cruising through europe in a 4-seat v12 ferarri with a shiny silver gear level and open gate... especially when everything that came afterwards was over-styled, over-complication and over-assisted.
if i had the money, i would have one in a shot.
my view on future classics is always to go for a car which was not subsequently bettered... sure, you can get a 612 with a manual box, but the lines are not as effortless as those of the 456.
in 10yrs time, what could be better than cruising through europe in a 4-seat v12 ferarri with a shiny silver gear level and open gate... especially when everything that came afterwards was over-styled, over-complication and over-assisted.
if i had the money, i would have one in a shot.
I got a soft spot for the Ferrari 400 series, but the age of those cars puts me off even though i kinda wished i bought one a few years ago, a 456 to me looks brilliant value a proper ferrari v12, relatively modern, but no so modern that it's full of ultra complex electronics
I think they look really nice and are probably one of ferrari's nicest looking 4 seaters, subsequent cars a much uglier and more complex so will likely cost even more to run
If prices are still low in a few years time, i might try and stretch to one, i cant afford it now, but if i could i would get one for sure
I think they look really nice and are probably one of ferrari's nicest looking 4 seaters, subsequent cars a much uglier and more complex so will likely cost even more to run
If prices are still low in a few years time, i might try and stretch to one, i cant afford it now, but if i could i would get one for sure
Edited by peter450 on Thursday 5th January 20:01
Having had a red, mid engined ferrari with a sports exhaust I find a nice dark coloured or even silver 456 very refreshing and not as lairy.
I can't imagine a group of lads sat outside a pub in the summer calling you a w
ker when you drive past in a 456 or every dick head in a chav wagon wanting to race you and then after they loose shout out the window that their mate's cousin's brother's Skyline would piss on that ferrari.
The 456 would really suit my lifestyle but....... I have said on PH before, I don't think I'm old enough for one (31) I think it would be bad manners for me to buy one.
I think something like this is the way forward ?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3243760.htm
I can't imagine a group of lads sat outside a pub in the summer calling you a w
ker when you drive past in a 456 or every dick head in a chav wagon wanting to race you and then after they loose shout out the window that their mate's cousin's brother's Skyline would piss on that ferrari.The 456 would really suit my lifestyle but....... I have said on PH before, I don't think I'm old enough for one (31) I think it would be bad manners for me to buy one.
I think something like this is the way forward ?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3243760.htm
I've owned my '98 456 GTA for 4 years now.
Like most people i initially wanted a manual but just couldn't find one with the right mileage and condition.
When i found my car - only 15k miles and in immaculate condition, i bought it straight away and have never regretted it.
Its a GT car and with so much torque its effortless and the auto box suits it perfectly - which is why when the auto box was introduced the vast majority of cars sold from then on were with autos.
In some ways it doesn't feel as fast as it is just becasue it gains speed so rapidly and effortlessly.
Someone following me once accussed me of ragging it becasue they were having difficulty keeping up. The truth was that i wasn't even trying, but with all that torque it gains speed so easily.
I'd highly recommend a 456 with auto box and can see why the vast majority of original purchasers chose the auto over the manual.
Like most people i initially wanted a manual but just couldn't find one with the right mileage and condition.
When i found my car - only 15k miles and in immaculate condition, i bought it straight away and have never regretted it.
Its a GT car and with so much torque its effortless and the auto box suits it perfectly - which is why when the auto box was introduced the vast majority of cars sold from then on were with autos.
In some ways it doesn't feel as fast as it is just becasue it gains speed so rapidly and effortlessly.
Someone following me once accussed me of ragging it becasue they were having difficulty keeping up. The truth was that i wasn't even trying, but with all that torque it gains speed so easily.
I'd highly recommend a 456 with auto box and can see why the vast majority of original purchasers chose the auto over the manual.
100 IAN said:
I've owned my '98 456 GTA for 4 years now.
Like most people i initially wanted a manual but just couldn't find one with the right mileage and condition.
When i found my car - only 15k miles and in immaculate condition, i bought it straight away and have never regretted it.
Its a GT car and with so much torque its effortless and the auto box suits it perfectly - which is why when the auto box was introduced the vast majority of cars sold from then on were with autos.
In some ways it doesn't feel as fast as it is just becasue it gains speed so rapidly and effortlessly.
Someone following me once accussed me of ragging it becasue they were having difficulty keeping up. The truth was that i wasn't even trying, but with all that torque it gains speed so easily.
I'd highly recommend a 456 with auto box and can see why the vast majority of original purchasers chose the auto over the manual.
mmm.... Interesting, sounds lovely Like most people i initially wanted a manual but just couldn't find one with the right mileage and condition.
When i found my car - only 15k miles and in immaculate condition, i bought it straight away and have never regretted it.
Its a GT car and with so much torque its effortless and the auto box suits it perfectly - which is why when the auto box was introduced the vast majority of cars sold from then on were with autos.
In some ways it doesn't feel as fast as it is just becasue it gains speed so rapidly and effortlessly.
Someone following me once accussed me of ragging it becasue they were having difficulty keeping up. The truth was that i wasn't even trying, but with all that torque it gains speed so easily.
I'd highly recommend a 456 with auto box and can see why the vast majority of original purchasers chose the auto over the manual.
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