TV Licence Rules
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S10 GTA

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13,814 posts

198 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Help. What are the rules around a tv licence? I have just had a paddy and cancelled mine.

The reason for the paddy is this: I moved into my house 31st Jan 2011. Being a good boy I called and paid my licence for a year. I specifically paid a one off amount as I know what these companies are like. Fast forward nearly a year, and today I see £145 taken from my account.

I call and ask how firstly, and why. Apparently they keep your details on file, and secondly my licence was due 1st Jan. It seems that a tv licence runs from the first of the month, like car tax. I'm utterly livid, and question why I should pay for all of Jan 11, when I didn't move in till the end I got the standard "sorry, that's just how it is" answer. I asked for a refund which I wasn't allowed, so I ended up cancelling it.

I plan on paying for it again on 1st Feb, but I'm utterly livid that they can do this. Anyway, back to the initial question, what are the rules, and I not watch BBC now?

Edited by S10 GTA on Wednesday 4th January 20:46

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,039 posts

266 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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..or use a computer with internet capabilities!

bristolracer

5,957 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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The licence is payable for using a television reciever irrespective of what you are watching.

Be aware that the licence authorities are now aware of who and where you are and the fact you have a TV.
As they proscecute from records and not from the mythical tv detector vans you may get a visit from an inspector

S10 GTA

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13,814 posts

198 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Sorry, should say tv licence, not itv licence.

I don't have the internet at home, or a phone line. I only have it on my mobile.

marcosgt

11,506 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
..or use a computer with internet capabilities!
This isn't true.

M.

S10 GTA

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198 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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So basically they have you over a barrel? £145 a year to have a tv in your house even if you don't use it?

jingars

1,229 posts

271 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Yes. Get over it.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Wednesday 4th January 2012
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marcosgt said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
..or use a computer with internet capabilities!
This isn't true.

M.
...to watch tv

tank slapper

7,949 posts

314 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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bristolracer said:
As they proscecute from records and not from the mythical tv detector vans you may get a visit from an inspector
At which time you can tell him to sling his hook, as they have no powers whatsoever.

Huff

3,447 posts

222 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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No. A licence is payable only if you use a receiver to watch tv as it is broadcast.

It's perfectly legal to gave a tv, say hooked to a dvd player for film playback, if you dont actually use it to watch broadcast telly.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,039 posts

266 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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...you'd need a tv licence to watch TV on your mobile phone too biggrin

Dracoro

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276 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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bristolracer said:
Be aware that the licence authorities are now aware of who and where you are and the fact you have a TV.
As they proscecute from records and not from the mythical tv detector vans you may get a visit from an inspector
What do you mean be "prosecute from records"?

The offence is if you watch or records TV as it's being broadcast without a licence. The offence is NOT having the capability of viewing live broadcasts, it has to actually be viewed and thus they need to see you do it (or for you to admit doing so).

jingars

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bristolracer

5,957 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Dracoro said:
bristolracer said:
Be aware that the licence authorities are now aware of who and where you are and the fact you have a TV.
As they proscecute from records and not from the mythical tv detector vans you may get a visit from an inspector
What do you mean be "prosecute from records"?

The offence is if you watch or records TV as it's being broadcast without a licence. The offence is NOT having the capability of viewing live broadcasts, it has to actually be viewed and thus they need to see you do it (or for you to admit doing so).
I can think of better things to do than have to respond to a summons. Argue it with the magistrate.

Dracoro

9,038 posts

276 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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I watch TV live so I have a licence.

If I never watched TV live, I would do away with a licence as there would be no legal requirement to have one. It would never get anywhere near court, even if it did, I would have no worry as I would NOT have broken the law. It's that simple.

WIth all due respect, you just appear ignorant of the law.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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266 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Is there still such a thing as a radio licence? wobble

crofty1984

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235 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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S10 GTA said:
So basically they have you over a barrel? £145 a year to have a tv in your house even if you don't use it?
No.
If you watch or record live TV as it is being broadcast, then you need a TV licence.
If you own a TV and use it for DVDs, Games, expensive clothes horse, etc you don't.
If you have a TV and use it as a massive monitor for your PC you don't.
If you have a TV, use it as a computer monitor and use it to surf the internet and watch things on iPlayer (or other catchup services) AFTER they're broadcast you don't need a licence.
If you use a laptop (or said massive PC monitor) to watch any "live on iplayer" content as it's being "broadcast" through the internet then you need a licence.

Hope that helps.
Dan

S10 GTA

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Wednesday 4th January 2012
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crofty1984 said:
No.
If you watch or record live TV as it is being broadcast, then you need a TV licence.
If you own a TV and use it for DVDs, Games, expensive clothes horse, etc you don't.
If you have a TV and use it as a massive monitor for your PC you don't.
If you have a TV, use it as a computer monitor and use it to surf the internet and watch things on iPlayer (or other catchup services) AFTER they're broadcast you don't need a licence.
If you use a laptop (or said massive PC monitor) to watch any "live on iplayer" content as it's being "broadcast" through the internet then you need a licence.

Hope that helps.
Dan
Top post. I am still confused how they can prove you are watching tv. Anybody able to answer?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Wednesday 4th January 2012
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S10 GTA said:
crofty1984 said:
No.
If you watch or record live TV as it is being broadcast, then you need a TV licence.
If you own a TV and use it for DVDs, Games, expensive clothes horse, etc you don't.
If you have a TV and use it as a massive monitor for your PC you don't.
If you have a TV, use it as a computer monitor and use it to surf the internet and watch things on iPlayer (or other catchup services) AFTER they're broadcast you don't need a licence.
If you use a laptop (or said massive PC monitor) to watch any "live on iplayer" content as it's being "broadcast" through the internet then you need a licence.

Hope that helps.
Dan
Top post. I am still confused how they can prove you are watching tv. Anybody able to answer?
I guess they don't have to. You'd probably need to prove you didn't! wobble

Eric Mc

125,862 posts

296 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Is there still such a thing as a radio licence? wobble
No.