Top end rebuild for 964
Top end rebuild for 964
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warmfuzzies

Original Poster:

4,354 posts

280 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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964 with 98k miles on it, doesn't leak oil (don't laugh) pulls well, had bodywork dings etc attended to..etc etc, I like the car, but when I went to enquire about a trade in the first question was has it had a top end rebuild......mind you I was offered circa £16k as trade in...

So at roughly £4k should I or should I do something else? I'll probably be keeping the car for another 2-3 years now......I'm not able to spend £ks as frankly I don't have that sort of money....so I'm in a kind of quandry.
Therefore your input will be kindly appreciated.
Oh, its road only at the moment as I've just had the front end sprayed.....and couldn't bear to find it peppered after a track day.

thanks

warmfuzzies

Buffalo

5,481 posts

281 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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I don't know anything about the 964 ()... BUT, whats the point on spending £4k on something that you haven't identified as needing? Thats bonkers!

Put your oney elsewhere, until the car NEEDS the rebuild. I can't see any benefit doing it early.

FWIW

warmfuzzies

Original Poster:

4,354 posts

280 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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Thanks for the frank reply that's what will keep me on the straight and narrow.

w.

Buffalo

5,481 posts

281 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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Wish i take heed of my own advice though!

But how much would you gain in terms of re-sale (part-ex) if you did shell out the £4k for the rebuild..?

If its no more than £4k it doesn't seem worth it. If the car doesn't need it, and whoever asked was 'just' the salesperson i reckon he was just asking for price to knock off...

FWIW...

Butzi

489 posts

268 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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If you're realy concerned, you can always do a compression test in a good independent specialist to see if you do need a rebuild.
As far as stone chips, I had Armourfend put on the front end of my car after respray, and that's protected it from stone chips very well, no problem after 3 track days!

poorcardealer

8,659 posts

268 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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£16K trade in seems strong..........what year is the car??

poorcardealer

8,659 posts

268 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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£16K trade in seems strong..........what year is the car??

warmfuzzies

Original Poster:

4,354 posts

280 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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93 registered, but 92 build.

It's in fine fettle as anyone who's seen will atest to...as I'm a fussy bugger......

Top end would only gain me another £1k or so on trade in, but, this is the issue, £4k now would cost what in 2-3 years? and I would still have to go through this process again about trade in and top end rebuilds yadda yadda yadda...

kevin

>> Edited by warmfuzzies on Saturday 3rd July 17:47

kettl

71 posts

294 months

Thursday 8th July 2004
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If you have no oil leaks and the compression test shows good results then the dealer is talking out of his a**e.
964's only need top-end rebuilds to rectify things like '0' ring rubber perishing or the dreaded cylinder head leaks that the early models had.
If it don't smoke and goes like it should then find another dealer... this one's probably looking to chip you down IMHO

Melv

4,708 posts

292 months

Thursday 8th July 2004
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Poorcardealer- why do you always post twice?

Mel

Melv

4,708 posts

292 months

Thursday 8th July 2004
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Poorcardealer- why do you always post twice?

Mel

rubystone

11,254 posts

286 months

Thursday 8th July 2004
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He's trying to chip you of course. £16k is a strong bid - he must have a lot of money in the other car or a buyer for yours....£16k is retail for the car. In 2-3 years' time your car will be worth sub £10k I'd say, so don't spend £4k on it now if you don't need to. Just my opinion, mind and the professionals who frequent this board may have an alternative view...

AC79xxx

62,260 posts

276 months

Thursday 8th July 2004
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warmfuzzies said:
I like the car, but when I went to enquire about a trade in the first question was has it had a top end rebuild......


He's trying to pull your trousers down. I'd tell him to off and find another dealer to trade with.

poorcardealer

8,659 posts

268 months

Thursday 8th July 2004
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To make sure you have read what I have to say Mel

fergus

6,430 posts

302 months

Friday 9th July 2004
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Butzi said:
If you're realy concerned, you can always do a compression test


You don't want a comp test, you want a leakdown test you do...
£4k for a top end build? Is whoever gave you that sort of price planning on gold plating the oil pipes?

rubystone

11,254 posts

286 months

Friday 9th July 2004
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fergus said:

Butzi said:
If you're realy concerned, you can always do a compression test



You don't want a comp test, you want a leakdown test you do...
£4k for a top end build? Is whoever gave you that sort of price planning on gold plating the oil pipes?


I agree on the leakdown, but have to say that £4k is the going rate for a top end rebuild. However, if you have a pukka tech who can do the job for cheaper money, let me know Fergus. I have at least 2 acquaintances who'll give him their 964s tomorrow if he can do the job for less.

fergus

6,430 posts

302 months

Friday 9th July 2004
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R/stone,

If you mail me offline, or ask Dom (he used the same guy), I'm sure the price would come in sub £4k. E.g. full motec for around £3k (ish), not £4k as per the competition....

rubystone

11,254 posts

286 months

Sunday 11th July 2004
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fergus said:
R/stone,

If you mail me offline, or ask Dom (he used the same guy), I'm sure the price would come in sub £4k. E.g. full motec for around £3k (ish), not £4k as per the competition....


???what's Motec got to do with a top end rebuild????

I know Dom's tech - Andy?

fergus

6,430 posts

302 months

Sunday 11th July 2004
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R/sotne,

My post was supposed to indicate that Andy can do a good job for cheaper than some of the alternatives, a Motec conversion being a typical example....

see?

cheers

iguana

7,325 posts

287 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Fergus, ref top end build it all depends on exactly what needs doing once you have the heads off & the labour rate of the company doing the job. Ive regualy seen top ends on 964s at specialists exceed the £4k level, indeed considerably more ££ on cars needing a fair bit of associated remedial work is not unheard of.

>> Edited by iguana on Monday 12th July 10:41