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Hey all,
First all apologise for any errors in my first post regarding advertising TORA and the way it came across was not meant to be spam etc.
I can confirm we are MSA recognised club however, we are passionate about real life motorsport and do take simulation racing seriously, we are not a lobby of drivers who you find in Forza 4 / GT5 public lobby’s.
We are simulation / motorsport enthusiasts who love racing but I for 1 cannot afford the huge budgets which real life motorsport brings.
Licence wise, we have a clear set of driving standard which all our competitors adhere too and a forum licence system where drivers who cause incidents do go before stewards / race marshals etc , penalty’s points deductions, race bans and refusals to drive certain formula.
We have registered our season calendars and have been a club for around x2 years now.
Myself I run a Fanatec CSR wheel for xbox, PS3 and PC, but the majority of our racers run gamer pads to high end wheels, it depends on your budget etc
If you do wish to check us out then please do so, and once more apologise for the advert and misunderstanding.
Please feel free to ask any questions and I will try and get some TORA members to come race with some Piston Heads Races organised here.
Kind Regards
Duncan Ray
[moderator edit to remove advertising links. advertising is not allowed in the forums]
First all apologise for any errors in my first post regarding advertising TORA and the way it came across was not meant to be spam etc.
I can confirm we are MSA recognised club however, we are passionate about real life motorsport and do take simulation racing seriously, we are not a lobby of drivers who you find in Forza 4 / GT5 public lobby’s.
We are simulation / motorsport enthusiasts who love racing but I for 1 cannot afford the huge budgets which real life motorsport brings.
Licence wise, we have a clear set of driving standard which all our competitors adhere too and a forum licence system where drivers who cause incidents do go before stewards / race marshals etc , penalty’s points deductions, race bans and refusals to drive certain formula.
We have registered our season calendars and have been a club for around x2 years now.
Myself I run a Fanatec CSR wheel for xbox, PS3 and PC, but the majority of our racers run gamer pads to high end wheels, it depends on your budget etc
If you do wish to check us out then please do so, and once more apologise for the advert and misunderstanding.
Please feel free to ask any questions and I will try and get some TORA members to come race with some Piston Heads Races organised here.
Kind Regards
Duncan Ray
[moderator edit to remove advertising links. advertising is not allowed in the forums]
Edited by DuncanRay1983 on Thursday 5th January 17:15
on a par with BGT, Toca and F3, that is the funniest thing ive heard all year...thats a bit like saying the latest footy console game is like the premiership or what ever its called
most actual real world club racing isnt on a par with those never mind a consle/pc game...
Ive no doubt the racing is very serious and skill full but get a grip man...
Other than that its actually quite interesting that there is an msa affiliated club racing the games..
do they approve your regulations and register your championship? or is it just affiliated in the way any group of motoring enthusiasts can form a club and affiliate with the msa?
G
most actual real world club racing isnt on a par with those never mind a consle/pc game...
Ive no doubt the racing is very serious and skill full but get a grip man...
Other than that its actually quite interesting that there is an msa affiliated club racing the games..
do they approve your regulations and register your championship? or is it just affiliated in the way any group of motoring enthusiasts can form a club and affiliate with the msa?
G
Edited by Graham on Thursday 5th January 16:37
Reading your post again, does the msa really recognise you as the governing body as IIRC thats the job of the msa and the FIA to be the governing body thats why your affiliated to them 
Im sorry it may just be the way your post comes across as a poorly construced advert, with a bad choice of words...
Historically the MSA has never had much time for sims/games so Id be interested to know if this has changed..
Is there any MSA licence structure involved?
I do actually compete in Motorsport inThe UK and Europe and use some of the sims to prepare so I do have an interest in what your doing, and would be interested to here more if its not just an advert.
I also have a dedicated rig with full wheel,pedals, race seat, monitor for using the sims on pc/xbox and ps3. It cheaper than getting the tuscan out of the truck...
Im sorry it may just be the way your post comes across as a poorly construced advert, with a bad choice of words...
Historically the MSA has never had much time for sims/games so Id be interested to know if this has changed..
Is there any MSA licence structure involved?
I do actually compete in Motorsport inThe UK and Europe and use some of the sims to prepare so I do have an interest in what your doing, and would be interested to here more if its not just an advert.
I also have a dedicated rig with full wheel,pedals, race seat, monitor for using the sims on pc/xbox and ps3. It cheaper than getting the tuscan out of the truck...
It's a MSA recognised club - like every other motorsports club in the UK, and the OP is nothing more nor less than spam.
http://www.msauk.org/site/cms/localGroupFinder.asp...
http://www.msauk.org/site/cms/localGroupFinder.asp...
yep, and all you need to be affiliated, is about 6 members, a constitution and a cheque payable to the msa.
the affiliation doesnt give you any recognition as an organising body, iirc it infact means anything you organise must be overseen by msa / fia rules.
as you say, smells like spam, looks like spam, quacks like spam.
Im still interested in any reply on the points raised though, as it could be pointing to a welcome shift and recognition by the msa or it could be fabricated tosh, both of which should be highlighted if true.
If the gaming/sim community wants to be taken seriously this kind of thing must be done properly.
the affiliation doesnt give you any recognition as an organising body, iirc it infact means anything you organise must be overseen by msa / fia rules.
as you say, smells like spam, looks like spam, quacks like spam.
Im still interested in any reply on the points raised though, as it could be pointing to a welcome shift and recognition by the msa or it could be fabricated tosh, both of which should be highlighted if true.
If the gaming/sim community wants to be taken seriously this kind of thing must be done properly.
@Graham
TORA is indeed recognised by the MSA and we have had to understake a hell of a lot of work over the past five years in order to get to a position whereby the MSA might take us seriously.
We have indeed had to produce and ratify a consitiution as well as Child Protection policies and produce regulations that are on par with anything you may find in real racing series. Obviously there are some differences in terms of regulations regarding safety equipment, track licencing fees etc which we cannot replicate. We are in regular contact with the MSA in order to develop our position and their understanding of simracing as a genuine form of grass roots motorsport.
A few media outlets have alreadt picked up on ou progress and articles have been produced througout 2010 and 2011 on us.
We have found the motorsport industry to be hugely receptive to our work and we have, through our media output, bagged quality airtime with a number of high profile drivers as well as the long standing support of RadioLeMans.com. We have also developed an ongoing relationship with Rogue Motorsport courtesy of their excellent Forza Motorsport 4 backed MR2 at the Britcar 24 last year.
As the founder of TORA, my sole purpose for the club has been to develop it into a genuine form of motorsports. Let's face it, not everyone can afford to go karting, club racing and the like. However, most people have access to a games console or PC and with simulators being used more and more in the motorsport industry to reduce costs of testing and travel between races, it is an ideal solution for the majority to get an idea of what it is like to race in a professional series.
For this to occur we have had to undertake significant amounts of work to produce rules packages that work and homologated car lists that are as equal as possible and provide the best possible racing experience for participating teams. All these things, put us on a par with real racing series. The amount of work undertaken should not be under estimated. Particularly as the team behind it are all volunteers and take much time out of their lives (and money out of their pockets) to make sure we are providing the best platform for competitors.
We have taken a serious approach to our racing series for nearly five years and have faced some opposition from 'individuals' who don't believe what we do has any basis in reality. But countering that, we have the support of the MSA, of a number of drivers and teams which proves we are going in the right direction. There are the clubs out there who are happy to just mess about online in their own little world, then there is us.
We believe in what we do, we love racing.
TORA is indeed recognised by the MSA and we have had to understake a hell of a lot of work over the past five years in order to get to a position whereby the MSA might take us seriously.
We have indeed had to produce and ratify a consitiution as well as Child Protection policies and produce regulations that are on par with anything you may find in real racing series. Obviously there are some differences in terms of regulations regarding safety equipment, track licencing fees etc which we cannot replicate. We are in regular contact with the MSA in order to develop our position and their understanding of simracing as a genuine form of grass roots motorsport.
A few media outlets have alreadt picked up on ou progress and articles have been produced througout 2010 and 2011 on us.
We have found the motorsport industry to be hugely receptive to our work and we have, through our media output, bagged quality airtime with a number of high profile drivers as well as the long standing support of RadioLeMans.com. We have also developed an ongoing relationship with Rogue Motorsport courtesy of their excellent Forza Motorsport 4 backed MR2 at the Britcar 24 last year.
As the founder of TORA, my sole purpose for the club has been to develop it into a genuine form of motorsports. Let's face it, not everyone can afford to go karting, club racing and the like. However, most people have access to a games console or PC and with simulators being used more and more in the motorsport industry to reduce costs of testing and travel between races, it is an ideal solution for the majority to get an idea of what it is like to race in a professional series.
For this to occur we have had to undertake significant amounts of work to produce rules packages that work and homologated car lists that are as equal as possible and provide the best possible racing experience for participating teams. All these things, put us on a par with real racing series. The amount of work undertaken should not be under estimated. Particularly as the team behind it are all volunteers and take much time out of their lives (and money out of their pockets) to make sure we are providing the best platform for competitors.
We have taken a serious approach to our racing series for nearly five years and have faced some opposition from 'individuals' who don't believe what we do has any basis in reality. But countering that, we have the support of the MSA, of a number of drivers and teams which proves we are going in the right direction. There are the clubs out there who are happy to just mess about online in their own little world, then there is us.
We believe in what we do, we love racing.
DucanRay1983 said:
Hey all,
First all apologise for any errors in my first post regarding advertising TORA and the way it came across was not meant to be spam etc.
I can confirm we are MSA recognised club however, we are passionate about real life motorsport and do take simulation racing seriously, we are not a lobby of drivers who you find in Forza 4 / GT5 public lobby’s.
We are simulation / motorsport enthusiasts who love racing but I for 1 cannot afford the huge budgets which real life motorsport brings.
Licence wise, we have a clear set of driving standard which all our competitors adhere too and a forum licence system where drivers who cause incidents do go before stewards / race marshals etc , penalty’s points deductions, race bans and refusals to drive certain formula.
We have registered our season calendars and have been a club for around x2 years now.
Myself I run a Fanatec CSR wheel for xbox, PS3 and PC, but the majority of our racers run gamer pads to high end wheels, it depends on your budget etc
If you do wish to check us out then please do so, and once more apologise for the advert and misunderstanding.
Please feel free to ask any questions and I will try and get some TORA members to come race with some Piston Heads Races organised here.
Kind Regards
Duncan Ray
[moderator edit to remove advertising links. advertising is not allowed in the forums]
It Sounds like you take it a little "too seriously" First all apologise for any errors in my first post regarding advertising TORA and the way it came across was not meant to be spam etc.
I can confirm we are MSA recognised club however, we are passionate about real life motorsport and do take simulation racing seriously, we are not a lobby of drivers who you find in Forza 4 / GT5 public lobby’s.
We are simulation / motorsport enthusiasts who love racing but I for 1 cannot afford the huge budgets which real life motorsport brings.
Licence wise, we have a clear set of driving standard which all our competitors adhere too and a forum licence system where drivers who cause incidents do go before stewards / race marshals etc , penalty’s points deductions, race bans and refusals to drive certain formula.
We have registered our season calendars and have been a club for around x2 years now.
Myself I run a Fanatec CSR wheel for xbox, PS3 and PC, but the majority of our racers run gamer pads to high end wheels, it depends on your budget etc
If you do wish to check us out then please do so, and once more apologise for the advert and misunderstanding.
Please feel free to ask any questions and I will try and get some TORA members to come race with some Piston Heads Races organised here.
Kind Regards
Duncan Ray
[moderator edit to remove advertising links. advertising is not allowed in the forums]
Edited by DuncanRay1983 on Thursday 5th January 17:15
Have you met Godrick yet? you'll get on famously. he has the FIA rulebook at his side at all times.
Please read my reply to this topic regarding why we 'take it seriously' as you put it. There is a reason for this.
Fair enough, sensible clean and competitive racing isn't to everyone's taste. I know full well there's plenty of you out there who just like to smash your way round tracks and ruin everyone elses good time. Oh well.
My apologies for spending 5 years developing a community of racers who appreciate motorsport and want something more out of their sim racing experience.
Fair enough, sensible clean and competitive racing isn't to everyone's taste. I know full well there's plenty of you out there who just like to smash your way round tracks and ruin everyone elses good time. Oh well.
My apologies for spending 5 years developing a community of racers who appreciate motorsport and want something more out of their sim racing experience.
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