Is Suarez a bitey racist or is Evra just reverting to form?
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essexplumber said:
BrabusMog said:
You wont be popular with the mods for that pic my plumbing friend.
I don't think I've ever been popular with them, I've been banned from that thread for ages for reasons I still can't fathom.
m3sye said:
Liverpool fan perchance? Tell me he's neutral and I'll have a read.im said:
Liverpool fan perchance? Tell me he's neutral and I'll have a read.
"Grown up views & discussions on Liverpool FC" apparently. So very neutral I'd imagint.To sum up, Tomkins has missed the point entirely by focussing on the word used and whether it's racist in English, Spanish or whatever rather than highlighting that one of the things Suarez said was, "I don't talk to blacks / negros / persons of colour / n
d: *delete as (in)appropriate.Idiots one and all. But not Spanish idiots, scouse idiots or black idiots. Just idiots.
First time in my life stood in the Kop and felt ashamed. It was clear to all of us that the young lad was upset and we instinctively feared he'd been racially abused. The Kop's response was booing him and then chanting 'there's only one lying bd'. Clearly the Kop feared it was racist and to respond like that is a sorry reflection on the club. This would never had happened if Dalglish hadn't behaved the way he had over the blind and childish support of Suarez.
Guardian article
Liverpool were embroiled in a fresh racism controversy night, after the Oldham Athletic defender Tom Adeyemi alleged that he was racially abused twice by a supporter during an FA Cup tie at Anfield.
The incident occurred 10 minutes from the end of Liverpool's 5-1 win over the League One side. The 20-year-old Adeyemi, who is on loan from Norwich City, became involved in an altercation with a supporter, or supporters, at the front of the Kop. Before leaving the stadium Adeyemi gave a statement to Merseyside police, in which he claimed to have been racially abused twice by a supporter.
Adeyemi was visibly upset by the exchange and it required several team-mates, the Liverpool captain, Steven Gerrard, and the referee, Neil Swarbrick, to calm him down. He was booked seconds later for a wild foul on the Liverpool substitute John Flanagan.
Witnesses reported seeing two fans wearing Luis Suárez T-shirts – similar to those worn by Liverpool players at Wigan last month, after the Uruguayan was found guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra – confronting Adeyemi. A witness who gave evidence to Liverpool officials and the police said: "I was to the right of the Kop and the No11 turned to walk away after a tackle. I heard a single voice shout, 'You fking black bd.' He spun round with shock on his face and started pointing at the crowd, from where the shout had come."
Merseyside police said that arrests were made at the game but not in relation to the alleged abuse of Adeyemi. A statement said: "Merseyside police can confirm that no one has been arrested this evening on suspicion of racially aggravated behaviour during tonight's FA Cup fixture at Anfield. However, the force and Liverpool Football Club are investigating following an incident that occurred during the second half of the game. The aim of the investigation is to establish the full circumstances surrounding the incident to ascertain if any action needs to be taken."
Liverpool launched an investigation into an incident that could not have come at a worse time for a club that has been widely condemned for its vehement support of Suárez, before and after his eight-match ban for racially abusing Evra in a match last October.
The Liverpool manager, Kenny Dalglish, was not able to comment. He gave his post-match press conference shortly after the final whistle. But a Liverpool statement said: "An incident occurred in the second half of the match which is now being investigated by both the club and the police. We will continue to work closely with the police to establish the details of what actually happened and will make a further statement in due course."
The Oldham Athletic manager, Paul Dickov, said Adeyemi was calm in the dressing room after the game but said that the player's on-field response to the alleged abuse had been out of character.
"From my point of view I have not spoken to Tom but something has been said," Dickov said. "He is a placid boy and well-educated lad with a fantastic temperament. He never raises his voice so for him to react like that, something has been said but what that is I don't know. I have not heard. I've just been told the police are investigating it.
"I haven't spoken to him directly about what happened because I was in the dressing room telling all the lads how proud I was of their performance. He is fine now. He has calmed down. He is a laid-back character. Our players and the Liverpool players helped calm him down, which showed they are fantastic professionals."
d'. Clearly the Kop feared it was racist and to respond like that is a sorry reflection on the club. This would never had happened if Dalglish hadn't behaved the way he had over the blind and childish support of Suarez.Guardian article
Liverpool were embroiled in a fresh racism controversy night, after the Oldham Athletic defender Tom Adeyemi alleged that he was racially abused twice by a supporter during an FA Cup tie at Anfield.
The incident occurred 10 minutes from the end of Liverpool's 5-1 win over the League One side. The 20-year-old Adeyemi, who is on loan from Norwich City, became involved in an altercation with a supporter, or supporters, at the front of the Kop. Before leaving the stadium Adeyemi gave a statement to Merseyside police, in which he claimed to have been racially abused twice by a supporter.
Adeyemi was visibly upset by the exchange and it required several team-mates, the Liverpool captain, Steven Gerrard, and the referee, Neil Swarbrick, to calm him down. He was booked seconds later for a wild foul on the Liverpool substitute John Flanagan.
Witnesses reported seeing two fans wearing Luis Suárez T-shirts – similar to those worn by Liverpool players at Wigan last month, after the Uruguayan was found guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra – confronting Adeyemi. A witness who gave evidence to Liverpool officials and the police said: "I was to the right of the Kop and the No11 turned to walk away after a tackle. I heard a single voice shout, 'You f
king black bd.' He spun round with shock on his face and started pointing at the crowd, from where the shout had come."Merseyside police said that arrests were made at the game but not in relation to the alleged abuse of Adeyemi. A statement said: "Merseyside police can confirm that no one has been arrested this evening on suspicion of racially aggravated behaviour during tonight's FA Cup fixture at Anfield. However, the force and Liverpool Football Club are investigating following an incident that occurred during the second half of the game. The aim of the investigation is to establish the full circumstances surrounding the incident to ascertain if any action needs to be taken."
Liverpool launched an investigation into an incident that could not have come at a worse time for a club that has been widely condemned for its vehement support of Suárez, before and after his eight-match ban for racially abusing Evra in a match last October.
The Liverpool manager, Kenny Dalglish, was not able to comment. He gave his post-match press conference shortly after the final whistle. But a Liverpool statement said: "An incident occurred in the second half of the match which is now being investigated by both the club and the police. We will continue to work closely with the police to establish the details of what actually happened and will make a further statement in due course."
The Oldham Athletic manager, Paul Dickov, said Adeyemi was calm in the dressing room after the game but said that the player's on-field response to the alleged abuse had been out of character.
"From my point of view I have not spoken to Tom but something has been said," Dickov said. "He is a placid boy and well-educated lad with a fantastic temperament. He never raises his voice so for him to react like that, something has been said but what that is I don't know. I have not heard. I've just been told the police are investigating it.
"I haven't spoken to him directly about what happened because I was in the dressing room telling all the lads how proud I was of their performance. He is fine now. He has calmed down. He is a laid-back character. Our players and the Liverpool players helped calm him down, which showed they are fantastic professionals."
Didn't know that mate. Actually had a full day of work before rushing to the game and then being stuck in stupid motorway traffic on the way home.
This is probably better here i think. Honestly, it was shameful to be stood in the Kop when the chanting started tonight. We all feared what had happened instinctively and for people to start chanting like that, absolutely disgusting.
This is probably better here i think. Honestly, it was shameful to be stood in the Kop when the chanting started tonight. We all feared what had happened instinctively and for people to start chanting like that, absolutely disgusting.
Its only being fair to say that if this is true the moron in question should not represent all LFC fans, as it was a cup game on an odd night he may be once every now and then fan and not a regular.
I'm sure LFC will be able to identify he via his seat and I'm also sure that in light of recent goings on they'll ban him for life.
However Raja has a point. If the Suarez matter had been handled better by KD this may have been a little less front page.
I'm sure LFC will be able to identify he via his seat and I'm also sure that in light of recent goings on they'll ban him for life.
However Raja has a point. If the Suarez matter had been handled better by KD this may have been a little less front page.
Raja said:
Didn't know that mate. Actually had a full day of work before rushing to the game and then being stuck in stupid motorway traffic on the way home.
This is probably better here i think. Honestly, it was shameful to be stood in the Kop when the chanting started tonight. We all feared what had happened instinctively and for people to start chanting like that, absolutely disgusting.
I wasn't at the game but had it on club commentary and you couldn't hear any chanting and they do have a few mics around the Kop.This is probably better here i think. Honestly, it was shameful to be stood in the Kop when the chanting started tonight. We all feared what had happened instinctively and for people to start chanting like that, absolutely disgusting.
Lots of talk on twitter and other LFC sites - Chap from the beeb is/was calling the Mirror Journos liars for their article. The Oldham player was hurt about something so we'll see.
Never had any bother in the pubs or the ground and don't want to see things change. Shame it has come to this.....
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