Weddings and corkage fee?
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13 DJP

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Moring Chums

Not sure of this is the right forum, but lets give it a go anyway.

The missus cousin is getting married in a couple of months and I have just been asked about the wine. Now apparently they have hired the local Town Hall for the reception, who have made her sign up for an outside catering company to do the bar.

She is to get the wine for the tables and it has just come to light that they want to charge her £2 per bottle corkage yikes

Am I right in thinking that a) this is an extortionate amount and b) what gives them the right to charge corkage when it`s not their premises and they are being paid to come in and make money anyway?

In addition it`s a budget wedding, so looking for the best option for wine.

There will be 100 guests, 20 tables of 5. I have suggested a minimum of 3 bottles per table, 1 red, 1 white and 1 rose. Giving a total of 60 bottles. Once run out guests will use the bar.

She has asked if I will do a booze cruise for her to get it, but am I right in thinking there`s not enough to qualify for any savings by the time you take into account the fuel, ferry etc.

I`ve just bought a load of cases for our reps at Christmas and paid a fiver a bottle from Majestic for something vaguable quaffable hehe

I have suggested doing the same as I`m sure you won`t get anything better from france for less than £3 a bottle?

Suggestions please chums

Cheers
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Use Psychology

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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i've seen prices much higher than that, but as you say, given the catering company don't own the premises, the only service they are providing is opening bottles and pouring wine, steep for £2 a bottle.

just tell them guests will open their own wine? wink

booze cruise efficiency depends on how close to france you are, I guess.

13 DJP

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Oh I agree I`ve seen them much higher, but in proper restaurants/hotels etc, not from outside caterers in a bloody Town Hall!!

BarnatosGhost

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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Sounds the wedding tax coming in here. Ask competitors for quotes and be tough with the caterer. Times are tough and if they believe you've got a serious bee in your bonnet, I'd have thought they'd waive it if they think they might lose you.

bigandclever

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266 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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If you want a laugh, google 'corkage wedding' and choose a couple of results at random - £2 corkage sounds a positive bargain, there are many, many talking about a tenner and more for corkage!

Roger645

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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2 quid and they open the bottle serve and get rid of the rubbish, sounds like a bargain.

13 DJP

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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Ok to confirm they are not catering the event, just doing the bar. The food is a hog roast by another company.

Perhaps I shouldn`t have called them a catering company, but they won`t be serving food or wine, or clearing the plates, just operating a pay bar.

The guests will get the food themselves from a huge rotating pig biggrin and open the wine at the table themselves.

Use Psychology

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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just pretend to them you don't understand what corkage is and say you've decided to let the guests open their wine themselves wink with a straight face. I mean, imagine the bar company trying to explain the idea of corkage and the rationale behind it to someone who doesn't know. they couldn't do it, you can't sell it, it is not in any customer's interest.

Use Psychology

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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oh and how much is the pig charging you for forkage?

Robb F

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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Use Psychology said:
just pretend to them you don't understand what corkage is and say you've decided to let the guests open their wine themselves wink with a straight face. I mean, imagine the bar company trying to explain the idea of corkage and the rationale behind it to someone who doesn't know. they couldn't do it, you can't sell it, it is not in any customer's interest.
And then post the result here! If you can keep a straight face it will be hilarious biggrin

13 DJP

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Unfortunately it`s not my wedding, so I won`t be having the conversation with them, but she is meeting with them tomorrow so I will tell her what to say biggrin

tontoro

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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i don't think it sounds unreasonable, but it depends on the whole package of what they are being paid. Since it is a pay bar it is possible that they are not charging a lot to be there. If that is the case then corkage is fair otherwise they might as well not bother showing up...

Cheese Mechanic

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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"hired the local Town Hall for the reception, who have made her sign up for an outside catering company to do the bar."

Since when does the Town Hall dictate that you use an outside company? Going to them to give them business, not to be dictated to.

Personally, I'd have been looking for other venues once they came that lark.
It's not difficult to hire the stuff needed and find a couple of people to run the bar. Job jobbed.

Edited by Cheese Mechanic on Saturday 7th January 15:37

Hoover.

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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60 bottles of wine x £2 = £120...... they'll probably pay the staff circa £30 - £40 each. Based on that they'll probably cover the staff costs alone on corkage, let alone what they recover from the bar.... cash cow.

13 DJP

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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Hmmm yes apparently it has a bar and this is normally staffed, however the wedding is on Maundy Thursday and the story goes that the bar is not open on a Thursday hence the need for someone to run it.

I fully appreciate paying someone to run the bar, but not to charge a premium on the wine on the table that they are neither supplying or pouring!

calibrax

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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Hoover. said:
60 bottles of wine x £2 = £120...... they'll probably pay the staff circa £30 - £40 each. Based on that they'll probably cover the staff costs alone on corkage, let alone what they recover from the bar.... cash cow.
Then again, the wine being provided free to guests means they won't sell a whole lot of drinks and could potentially make very little money. I think its very reasonable under the circumstances.

13 DJP

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calibrax said:
Hoover. said:
60 bottles of wine x £2 = £120...... they'll probably pay the staff circa £30 - £40 each. Based on that they'll probably cover the staff costs alone on corkage, let alone what they recover from the bar.... cash cow.
Then again, the wine being provided free to guests means they won't sell a whole lot of drinks and could potentially make very little money. I think its very reasonable under the circumstances.
TBF it`s only half a bottle of wine per person, and they are being paid to man the bar, so should be irrelevant, however half the guests are Italian and can put some away, so it`s safe to say they will take a fair wack over the bar biggrin

Piglet

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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Who supplies and washes the glasses and who will pay for any breakages? £2 is very reasonable for corkage.

I wonder if you've been given entirely the right story about the catering co/bar operators etc, it doesn't really stack up.

If they don't want to pay that then go to another venue but I imagine that it will be a lot more expensive all round.


13 DJP

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Piglet said:
Who supplies and washes the glasses and who will pay for any breakages? £2 is very reasonable for corkage.

I wonder if you've been given entirely the right story about the catering co/bar operators etc, it doesn't really stack up.

If they don't want to pay that then go to another venue but I imagine that it will be a lot more expensive all round.
I will double check, but I am lead to believe that the wine glasses are being hired separately and the washing up etc is being done by family.

I think another conversation and some further clarification is required biggrin

21TonyK

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Saturday 7th January 2012
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The question is whether or not "the bar" would normally supply the wine for an event and by allowing the hirer to bring their own wine they are losing money hence the corkage (which is very cheap at £2).