How do you "Geotag"?.
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ZOLLAR

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19,920 posts

202 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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Just curious really have no real use for it but just wondered how you get the information from a picture?.
Do you require a certain software download?.

93Jay

3,383 posts

193 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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ZOLLAR said:
Just curious really have no real use for it but just wondered how you get the information from a picture?.
Do you require a certain software download?.
Usually on the images EXIF data, Saved image, right click, properties and details tab.

Edited by 93Jay on Saturday 7th January 17:40

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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As said, the GPS info can be embedded in the exif data.

I use an AMOD gps logger and HoudahGeo to tag my pics, works a treat.

DIW35

4,204 posts

229 months

Sunday 8th January 2012
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There are a couple of ways to get the location in to the image data. One is to attach a specialised GPS unit to your camera. This will record the info at the time of taking the picture.

The other way is if you already have a general purpose GPS. You can download the track data to your PC, and using software that is freely available from the net, embed the information to your photo data. For this to work, it is important to make sure that your camera and GPS clocks are synchronised, as the software works by comparing the time on the image to where you were at the same time on the GPS data log.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

211 months

Sunday 8th January 2012
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DIW35 said:
There are a couple of ways to get the location in to the image data. One is to attach a specialised GPS unit to your camera. This will record the info at the time of taking the picture.

The other way is if you already have a general purpose GPS. You can download the track data to your PC, and using software that is freely available from the net, embed the information to your photo data. For this to work, it is important to make sure that your camera and GPS clocks are synchronised, as the software works by comparing the time on the image to where you were at the same time on the GPS data log.
That actually sounds like a very clever idea. Does it work as smoothly as it sounds or is that the simplified version? And do you know if any of the major phone OS' (Android or Apple essentially) do an app that would store the GPS data in the correct way?

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Sunday 8th January 2012
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My new camera has a geotagging option built in. But I'm not sure what the point is. I know I can "right click" the image and it will give me lat/long... but what's teh point? I want to have a map with my photos overlayed or somethign. What can I use for that?

tenohfive

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211 months

Sunday 8th January 2012
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mrmr96 said:
My new camera has a geotagging option built in. But I'm not sure what the point is. I know I can "right click" the image and it will give me lat/long... but what's teh point? I want to have a map with my photos overlayed or somethign. What can I use for that?
I like being able to show exactly where a shot was taken. And I sometimes use Google Maps/Streetview to have a nosy at an area. Geotagged photo's show up on the map (if you 'grab' the little man you'll see dots you can place him on) and that helped me decide to go when I was last in the Lake District - a lot of the photo's showed just how impressive the Langdale Valley is. Maybe a niche use but a nice touch nonetheless.

markmullen

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263 months

Sunday 8th January 2012
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I geotag all my photos with an Amod GPS logger and HaudohGPS on the Mac which is a brilliant bit of software. The latest version will map your photos as well as embedding the location within the exif data on the shot.

Practically it means when I upload a shot to flickr I don't have to add it to the map manually, flickr reads the location from the exif data.

mrmr96

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233 months

Sunday 8th January 2012
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tenohfive said:
mrmr96 said:
My new camera has a geotagging option built in. But I'm not sure what the point is. I know I can "right click" the image and it will give me lat/long... but what's teh point? I want to have a map with my photos overlayed or somethign. What can I use for that?
I like being able to show exactly where a shot was taken. And I sometimes use Google Maps/Streetview to have a nosy at an area. Geotagged photo's show up on the map (if you 'grab' the little man you'll see dots you can place him on) and that helped me decide to go when I was last in the Lake District - a lot of the photo's showed just how impressive the Langdale Valley is. Maybe a niche use but a nice touch nonetheless.
My point is that "yes" it will be nice to be able to see where a shot was taken, but what software allows you to do the "reviewing". (I don't mean the s/w that adds tags, I mean s/w that makes a pretty map etc.) My iPhone allows me to browse by location, but only on the phone. What can I do with the geotagged photos from my new Canon camera on my PC?

DIW35

4,204 posts

229 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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You can load them up to a site like Panoramio, which will allow you to view them on Google Earth. I think you can also view them locally on your PC if you use Google Earth, without having to upload them anywhere.

theboyfold

11,469 posts

255 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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markmullen said:
As said, the GPS info can be embedded in the exif data.

I use an AMOD gps logger and HoudahGeo to tag my pics, works a treat.
Sounds interesting, I'll have a look into these.

Do you just leave the logger in your bag when you are out and about, I'm guessing you don't have to do much else with it other than sync the clocks?

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Pretty much that, even easier I've got my Macbook Pro syncing its clock with a time server and my bodies set to update to computer time through Eos Utility so every now and again I just plug them into the Mac and sync their clocks.

The logger itself is only about the size of a box of matches and I've put it on a karabiner, it either hangs off my camera bag or off the epaulette of my gitzo coat if I'm not carrying a bag and just does its thing.

The AMOD is driverless, when you connect it with a mini USB it appears as a drive with one folder, in that folder is just a list of log files, I drag them across to a folder on my Mac.

HoudahGPS is clever enough that if you can't remember which log file you need for an image you can select all and it will find the corresponding log for the image. It will also write xmp files, or embed the location in the exif.

Craikeybaby

12,098 posts

254 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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This is something I hadn't really thought much about other than it being a nice to have, but with Lightroom 4 having a map module it could come in more useful.

sjg

7,675 posts

294 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I think Picasa has a map mode that uses EXIF geotags. Apple's iPhoto and Aperture certainly do (the latter actually has some very nice functionality around this). Flickr also do, although the default setting is for uploaded pics to not be put on your map - need to change in Your Account > Privacy and Permissions > Import EXIF location data.

I took a Qstarz GPS logger with me on a long trip - I found it tracked fine just inside one of the top pockets on my daypack, no need for it to be hanging outside. The other nice thing is that is uses a standard Nokia battery so easy to get a spare including higher capacity ones. Other than that, I just charged it overnight, switch on in the morning and forgot about it. Battery lasted about 36 hours at a time, and it stored a few weeks of data even logging all day. The software that came with it is awful but Houdah and others support getting the data from the device, once you've got a GPX that can be fed into Aperture or something else to tag them properly.

I'm looking forward to more cameras supporting this stuff natively, I really like having map-type views of photos, and if I can have the camera do it without hammering battery life it would be a very good thing.

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Yup - can confirm Picasa does this.

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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There are loads of phone apps that can create the track logs you need to geotag images.

It's easier if you pick one that will output a gpx file for you, although there are numerous file converters if you find an app you prefer which uses a different format for the log file.

Again, plenty of free software for doing the actual "tagging" bit.

There are even websites where you can upload the gpx file and your images, the website then tags the images for you.

One such is http://www.gobreadcrumbs.com/ , which also does some other neat stuff with gpx logs.

Craikeybaby

12,098 posts

254 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Having had a play with the Lightroom 4 beta last night it seems to be easy to drag your photos onto the map, which then adds the GPS coordinates, probably more useful if you are taking lots of shots in one place, rather than travelling about.