The Bank Job - C4 quiz...

[Six Fiend]

Ended with a fabulous twist as the two finalists left tried to stitch eachother up over £467,500 they could win, share or lose.

Each had a case with half the money and another case full of paper. One case had to be given to the other player. Both give cash and it's shared. One gives cash, the other trash and other one wins the cash. Both give trash and both lose...

They both lost and so the other 3 in the final split it between them

Excellent twist!

Edited by Six Fiend on Saturday 7th January 22:16

[ajprice]

Apart from the ones not in the final getting the money, it was the Goldenballs final.

Edited by ajprice on Saturday 7th January 22:16

[Six Fiend]

I've never watched a whole Golden Balls

[ajprice]

Here you go, you'll know what happens because of the pic above (oops ). Jasper Carrott is a lot clearer about rules than George Lamb though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Uos2fzIJ0&fea...

[g4ry13]

First time i've watched it. It was great viewing and reminded me of Golden Balls. I really didn't trust specs, he couldn't look the other guy in the eye. The other guy did a great job with his plea and actually came across genuine. It was nice to see they were too greedy to share and the money got distributed to the rest, a handsome pay day for the others

[Jasandjules]

Yup, the "twist" has been done before on other gameshows (but for the fact that the other three split the winnings instead!).

What kind of w***er do you have to be to say "let's share" then try and steal all the money though?!?! How can people like that walk in decent society again?!?!

I thought the presenter was p**s poor as well though......

[Save Ferris]

Ive been following this all week as one of my facebook friends is the Sister in Law of the blonde girl Oonagh, who is now about £150K better off!

[Halb]

Logic dictates that you always go for the steal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trap_%28televisio...

[DayTrader]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

[g4ry13]

Halb said:

Logic dictates that you always go for the steal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trap_%28televisio...

Yes, but i'm guessing you're not allowed to tell the other person:

"I'm going to steal the money and i'll share it with you after the show"

[Halb]

g4ry13 said:

Yes, but i'm guessing you're not allowed to tell the other person:

"I'm going to steal the money and i'll share it with you after the show"

I suppose the above game changes the paradigm by having the two people have to match their answers?

[g4ry13]

Halb said:

g4ry13 said:

Yes, but i'm guessing you're not allowed to tell the other person:

"I'm going to steal the money and i'll share it with you after the show"

I suppose the above game changes the paradigm by having the two people have to match their answers?

Regarding your link:

"He invented system games reflecting his beliefs about human behaviour, including one he called "fk You Buddy" (later published as "So Long Sucker"), in which the only way to win was to betray your playing partner, and it is from this game that the episode's title is taken. "

In order to win, you need to betray the other person. However, in the case of the bank job you can win in 2 ways: both share or betray the person and steal the lot.

[Halb]

g4ry13 said:

Regarding your link:

"He invented system games reflecting his beliefs about human behaviour, including one he called "fk You Buddy" (later published as "So Long Sucker"), in which the only way to win was to betray your playing partner, and it is from this game that the episode's title is taken. "

In order to win, you need to betray the other person. However, in the case of the bank job you can win in 2 ways: both share or betray the person and steal the lot.

So the natural logic to always steal is subverted into a game of guessing what the other person will do, and you do have to match answers? In the original game, you will always win by stealing, hence the logic.

[monkey gland]

ajprice said:

Apart from the ones not in the final getting the money, it was the Goldenballs final.

And before that, Kilroy's ill fated attempt "Shafted":



Will you share or will you shaft?

[g4ry13]

Halb said:

So the natural logic to always steal is subverted into a game of guessing what the other person will do, and you do have to match answers? In the original game, you will always win by stealing, hence the logic.

If you're talking about the bank job/golden balls example. It doesn't matter what the other person does. If they select steal there's no way for you to win. If they pick share, then you either share or take the lot by stealing. So if you're not feeling generous and have doubts they're going to share then stealing is always optimal.

[Halb]

g4ry13 said:

If you're talking about the bank job/golden balls example. It doesn't matter what the other person does. If they select steal there's no way for you to win. If they pick share, then you either share or take the lot by stealing. So if you're not feeling generous and have doubts they're going to share then stealing is always optimal.

What happens if both steal?

[g4ry13]

Halb said:

g4ry13 said:

If you're talking about the bank job/golden balls example. It doesn't matter what the other person does. If they select steal there's no way for you to win. If they pick share, then you either share or take the lot by stealing. So if you're not feeling generous and have doubts they're going to share then stealing is always optimal.

What happens if both steal?

That's what happened last night. In the bank job case the money got distributed to the other contestants. In golden balls - they both get nothing.

[Jasandjules]

g4ry13 said:

Yes, but i'm guessing you're not allowed to tell the other person:

"I'm going to steal the money and i'll share it with you after the show"

Actually on Goldenballs a guy did. He said (I'll paraphrase)

" I am going to steal. If you steal as well we will both lose. But I will give you half. But I am going to steal so please trust me and don't steal, select share or else we will lose".

The other guy took him at his word and shared, and the guy who said the above also had selected share.......

[Six Fiend]

Save Ferris said:

Ive been following this all week as one of my facebook friends is the Sister in Law of the blonde girl Oonagh, who is now about £150K better off!

I wanted Oonagh to win. Specs and Emotional were strange!

[g4ry13]

Six Fiend said:

I wanted Oonagh to win. Specs and Emotional were strange!

I only watched a bit but she was the best looking so I wanted her to win . Specs guy was so obvious that he was going to screw the other guy over and did everything to avoid eye contact. Emotional guy was a bit of a moron in the penultimate round when he was sitting there with £48k and making out like it was some huge decision whether or not to take the money when it was a no-brainer that he should, he did a pretty good acting job before they picked their boxes but specs was probably convinced he was going to go for share and got greedy so it backfired on the emotional guy. They could have walked away with £230k+ each, what muppets!