30+ years previous but is this too far from today

[Bosshogg76]

I was hunting for humorous clips of Kenneth Williams (Round the Horne to be precise) when I stumbled across this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0cRolJ_hIw&fea...

It kind of struck me, especially on this website, how in 30 years plus, not a lot has really changed. The only difference is that the BBC has watered down TV to the most base level. I can't imagine anyone being able to grandstand in such a way in the present day, nor could I mention a celebrity able to articulate in such manner.

[Randy Winkman]

Bosshogg76 said:

I was hunting for humorous clips of Kenneth Williams (Round the Horne to be precise) when I stumbled across this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0cRolJ_hIw&fea...

It kind of struck me, especially on this website, how in 30 years plus, not a lot has really changed. The only difference is that the BBC has watered down TV to the most base level. I can't imagine anyone being able to grandstand in such a way in the present day, nor could I mention a celebrity able to articulate in such manner.

Why is it the BBC's fault?

[Bosshogg76]

Randy Winkman said:

Why is it the BBC's fault?

I never mentioned that they were at fault, merely that they had done so.

[EDLT]

The only real difference is that the presenter didn't keep trying to move the discussion on to another topic every thirty seconds.

[Derek Smith]

If anything the BBC is the victim in all of this. It used to be very willing to take a risk. The Goon Show and TW3 were, for their days, very much out there but with complaints from every political party about them being biased they have gradually had to curb their enthusiasm. ITV has to cowtow to its advertisers so has always been more middle of the road, middle England in its programme choices, although to be fair, they have on occasion stucke their neck out.

But it is getting worse. 30,000 people complained about Clarkson's comment about excuted in front of their children yet if you see, or even read, the whole interview you will realise that he was saying something entirely different.

When you needed a stamp people were considerably less likely to be offended.

[Randy Winkman]

There is plenty of TV to stimulate the mind on BBC4.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/

[carmonk]

What, you mean you prefer intelligent, stimulating debate on chat shows instead of Graham Norton collapsing in hysterics at a website of cock-shaped vegetables and celebrities promoting their latest film? Madness.

[Halb]

Bosshogg76 said:

It kind of struck me, especially on this website, how in 30 years plus, not a lot has really changed. The only difference is that the BBC has watered down TV to the most base level. I can't imagine anyone being able to grandstand in such a way in the present day, nor could I mention a celebrity able to articulate in such manner.

There are lots, watch BBC 4, BBC 2. Stephen Fry, Darragh O'Brien, Rory MaGrath, David Mitchell.
There are no chat shows like Parky on primetime anymore. Culture has moved on and now the chat show has moved to a point where the interviewer is the star.

[Bosshogg76]

Halb said:

There are lots, watch BBC 4, BBC 2. Stephen Fry, Darragh O'Brien, Rory MaGrath, David Mitchell.
There are no chat shows like Parky on primetime anymore. Culture has moved on and now the chat show has moved to a point where the interviewer is the star.

yep i watch those guys, but haven't yet seen them articulate in the same manner. As has been mentioned, maybe they haven't been given the stage to be able to. Culture has moved on, and I'm trying to work out whether it's moved on to a better place..at the moment I don't think it has.

[cazzer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MbZjzIg5w8

My favourite Kenneth Williams moment,.

[Derek Smith]

Bosshogg76 said:

Halb said:

There are lots, watch BBC 4, BBC 2. Stephen Fry, Darragh O'Brien, Rory MaGrath, David Mitchell.
There are no chat shows like Parky on primetime anymore. Culture has moved on and now the chat show has moved to a point where the interviewer is the star.

yep i watch those guys, but haven't yet seen them articulate in the same manner. As has been mentioned, maybe they haven't been given the stage to be able to. Culture has moved on, and I'm trying to work out whether it's moved on to a better place..at the moment I don't think it has.

It's a balance, isn't it. I used to work in an area where there were signs saying: 'no blacks' and a barbers saying: 'blacks only'. Where I was born there were signs which said: 'no blacks, no Irish, no dogs' in windows for digs. That sort of stuff is well gone.

We are becoming more like America with its 'moral majority'. Everyone with a keyboard now thinks their opinion whould govern what I can see on TV. I remeber hearing that Monty Python would not be considered nowadays for TV because it might upset people.

It destroys TV drama even. No American drama has the vicar as the criminal. There was one Prime Suspect where I knew who the rapist wasn't, the black bloke. Oddly enough I felt short changed when it turned out to be him.

Everyone wants to tell me what I can and cannot watch on TV.

[Rude-boy]

Derek Smith said:

When you needed a stamp people were considerably less likely to be offended.

Very true.