Miles per tree. Seriously.
Miles per tree. Seriously.
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SturdyJ

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10,443 posts

196 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Basic assumption is that apparently an 'average' tree absorbs 1 tonne of CO2 over a 100 year lifetime.

I'm happy to tweak this if any experts want to correct me.

Based on that and a g/km figure for one's car, you can now enjoy your miles per tree figure.

How you ask? Well I've made it simple.

Just take 6230.5296, and divide it by your g/km figure.

I get 16.2 miles before I have to stop and plant a tree. Which I do of course.

jagnet

4,442 posts

231 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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SturdyJ said:
I get 16.2 miles before I have to stop and plant a tree. Which I do of course.
So you produce 1 tonne of CO2 every 16 miles? Sounds a lot. Or am I completely misunderstanding the maths behind this?

mikeyb123

14 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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hmm

mine does 109g per KM

that gives me 175g per mile (109x1.60934)

given there are 1000000g in a tonne I get:

1000000 \ 175 = 5714miles per tree

Benbay001

5,889 posts

186 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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SturdyJ said:
Basic assumption is that apparently an 'average' tree absorbs 1 tonne of CO2 over a 100 year lifetime.

I'm happy to tweak this if any experts want to correct me.

Based on that and a g/km figure for one's car, you can now enjoy your miles per tree figure.

How you ask? Well I've made it simple.

Just take 6230.5296, and divide it by your g/km figure.

I get 16.2 miles before I have to stop and plant a tree. Which I do of course.
Trees seem very efficient, can we drive them?
What other natural phenomena absorb CO2?

Whitean3

2,197 posts

227 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I think your maths is WAY off... unless your daily drive is a top fuel dragster.
Let's say you have a car "polluting" at 200g/km. This means that 1Kg would be emitted over 5 km. Therefore to emit 1 ton of CO2, you would have to drive 5000 km (let's call that about 3000 miles give or take) emiting at a constant 200 g/km. The assumption here is that the tree will live for 100 years. Let's reduce that to 20 years, and you're still looking at 1000 km per tree, assuming it only absorbs 1/5 the mass of CO2.

ikarl

4,049 posts

228 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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algae and plankton(?)

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

187 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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When the tree dies it rots, releasing the CO2 back into the system.

Over the tree's entire lifetime its effect on CO2 is zero, despite the message greenpeace try to suggest.

RH

Motorrad

6,811 posts

216 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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How many cows do I have to kill to offest my V8?

I'm not much of one for tree planting or hugging but I do enjoy a good steak.

Whitean3

2,197 posts

227 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Motorrad said:
How many cows do I have to kill to offest my V8?

I'm not much of one for tree planting or hugging but I do enjoy a good steak.
Hmm, think you could be onto something there- kill the cow, stop the methane/greenhouse gas production, whilst enjoying steak.

Surely it would enhance your green credentials to eat more veal?

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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do you need maths to be a software engineer?

Cyder

7,186 posts

249 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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SturdyJ said:
Basic assumption is that apparently an 'average' tree absorbs 1 tonne of CO2 over a 100 year lifetime.

I'm happy to tweak this if any experts want to correct me.

Based on that and a g/km figure for one's car, you can now enjoy your miles per tree figure.

How you ask? Well I've made it simple.

Just take 6230.5296, and divide it by your g/km figure.

I get 16.2 miles before I have to stop and plant a tree. Which I do of course.
Ummmm are you sure about that?

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

219 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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mikeyb123 said:
hmm

mine does 109g per KM

that gives me 175g per mile (109x1.60934)

given there are 1000000g in a tonne I get:

1000000 \ 175 = 5714miles per tree
There is a failure in the logic of this of course.... It assumes that the wood will fossilize and not rot, turning back to CO2 again wink

Read about the evolution of lignin digesting bacteria at the end of the carboniferous period if you want to learn something new today. More interesting than it sounds, I promise!

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

247 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Rovinghawk said:
When the tree dies it rots, releasing the CO2 back into the system.

Over the tree's entire lifetime its effect on CO2 is zero, despite the message greenpeace try to suggest.
And for anything that doesn't, it gets compressed for a few hundred thousand years, we then suck it out the ground and burn it.

So everytime I put my foot down, I'm just completing nature's cycle smile

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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SturdyJ said:
Basic assumption is that apparently an 'average' tree absorbs 1 tonne of CO2 over a 100 year lifetime.
A tree locks away 0.9 t of CO2 per cubic metre of timber, so it all depends on how big the tree gets!

http://www.woodforgood.com/

And yes, I am connected with the timber industry smile

chr15b

3,467 posts

219 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Whitean3 said:
I think your maths is WAY off... unless your daily drive is a top fuel dragster.
Let's say you have a car "polluting" at 200g/km. This means that 1Kg would be emitted over 5 km. Therefore to emit 1 ton of CO2, you would have to drive 5000 km (let's call that about 3000 miles give or take) emiting at a constant 200 g/km. The assumption here is that the tree will live for 100 years. Let's reduce that to 20 years, and you're still looking at 1000 km per tree, assuming it only absorbs 1/5 the mass of CO2.
The problem as i see it is the average tree may be able to absorb an amount of CO2 over x years but how much of the CO2 you're creating is it absorbing and over what time period.

Bisonhead

1,598 posts

218 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Dont trees absorb oxygen during daylight and emit CO2 at night?

Gruber

6,313 posts

243 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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A few years back, the Daily Telegraph ran a competition to win James May's old Bentley. It was one of those finish the sentence type competitions: "I should win James May's Bentley because...".

The winning entry, if memory serves, was:

"I should win James May's Bentley because I already own a forest and I want to be carbon neutral".


V88Dicky

7,367 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Benbay001 said:
What other natural phenomena absorb CO2?
The oceans gas/de-gas according to temperature. THE biggest emitter of plant food gas, along with volcanoes. 96% of all that horrible CO2 (which makes up 0.039% of our atmosphere) is nature's fault!!


SWoll

22,810 posts

287 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Skodasupercar said:
A tree locks away 0.9 t of CO2 per cubic metre of timber, so it all depends on how big the tree gets!

http://www.woodforgood.com/

And yes, I am connected with the timber industry smile
Perhaps?



wink

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Bisonhead said:
Dont trees absorb oxygen during daylight and emit CO2 at night?
No no no!

You are forgetting your basic biology!

During the day, trees absorb light and turn the light into carbon dioxide, which is why deserts are so hot as nothing absorbs the sun.
At night time, trees take in Oxygen, and turn it into wood, making them grow in the dark so they get bigger without anyone seeing them moving.