What would you do?
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anonymous-user

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85 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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http://www.BBC.co.uk/news/magazine-16472310
Many Greek parents are now abandoning their children to charities and the Church as they can no longer provide for them. What would you do in that situation?
It has implications for those who seek to destroy our welfare system ( I favour restructuring not destruction).

DonkeyApple

70,749 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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It's a bullst story.

No mention of the numbers of children abandoned prior to the economic downturn. It obviously wasn't zero.


BoRED S2upid

21,111 posts

271 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I would leave the country.

AJS-

15,366 posts

267 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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BBC bullst. Aside from the strong extended family in Greece there's a very adequate welfare state.

There will be abandoned babies, as there would have been at the height of the boom and at every point inbetween, and there will be people feeling poor. But think about it, Greeks have ready access to other EU markets. Long before anyone was starving or abandoning babies in great numbers they would be clambering on boats for Italy or pouring into Britain and Germany seeking work.

It's just part of an EU wide propaganda campaign to make selling a ridiculous debt deal to weary electorates easier. Don't be fooled.

jeff m2

2,060 posts

182 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Don't worry some American actress will scoop 'em up.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

264 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
It's a bullst story.

No mention of the numbers of children abandoned prior to the economic downturn. It obviously wasn't zero.
I agree.

Of more concern though is that the Greeks are starting to tax the charities that look after a lot of these kids.

Puggit

49,829 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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jeff m2 said:
Don't worry some American actress will scoop 'em up.
Are you actually calling Madonna an actress? eek

Frankeh

12,558 posts

216 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Buy up the kids and create the worlds largest children human pyramid.

Puggit

49,829 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I'm not sure what I'd do. Is the act of passing your children over to charity an admission of failure, or a positive step to give them a brighter future (or indeed a future at all in the most serious circumstances).

I'd like to think I'd do whatever it takes to protect my children and to help them.

DonkeyApple

70,749 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Rude-boy said:
I agree.

Of more concern though is that the Greeks are starting to tax the charities that look after a lot of these kids.
Does depend on what the charity is. Most of them will just be schemes by the wealthy to avoid tax.

It's just a third world country like any other except no one starves or dies of unnecassary illness or has to work hard to survive.

herewego

8,814 posts

244 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I was in a foreign city a little while ago and the hospitals in the city were setting up reception places for people to leave babies that they couldn't look after. I think they were called baby drop off boxes or some such.

Would it benefit the Greek people if more of those with time and money enough for a foreign holiday went to Greece instead of other places? I haven't heard the UK government ask holiday makers to do this so I just wonder. Maybe it's against EU rules to try to help.

dan1758

119 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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This has been going on for a long time with children being sent here from Romania

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/66490...

Story from Saturday, 12 May 2007, 03:38 GMT 04:38 UK

Concern over 'migrant children'
A Berkshire town has been struggling to cope with nearly 90 children who have arrived unaccompanied from Eastern Europe.
The children, one as young as 10, have apparently paid someone in Romania to send them to Slough.

Slough Borough Council said it was puzzled as to why the children were going there, but it has set up a special team to support them.

It has called for more government help to offset the strain on other services.

Family members

The authority has revealed that since 1 January, when Romania joined the European Union, 88 Romanian Roma children have arrived asking for help.

The children usually arrive in groups of three, but six have had babies of their own and seven have been pregnant.

The local authority has set up an emergency Roma assessment team and spent £150,000 on housing and keeping the children.

It is currently supporting 53 children while others have been sent to live with family members who have been located in other parts of the UK.

The council said more money is needed from the government to help them with migrants otherwise other services could be cut.

jeff m2

2,060 posts

182 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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dan1758 said:
This has been going on for a long time with children being sent here from Romania

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/66490...

Story from Saturday, 12 May 2007, 03:38 GMT 04:38 UK

Concern over 'migrant children'
A Berkshire town has been struggling to cope with nearly 90 children who have arrived unaccompanied from Eastern Europe.
The children, one as young as 10, have apparently paid someone in Romania to send them to Slough.

Slough Borough Council said it was puzzled as to why the children were going there, but it has set up a special team to support them.

It has called for more government help to offset the strain on other services.

Family members

The authority has revealed that since 1 January, when Romania joined the European Union, 88 Romanian Roma children have arrived asking for help.

The children usually arrive in groups of three, but six have had babies of their own and seven have been pregnant.

The local authority has set up an emergency Roma assessment team and spent £150,000 on housing and keeping the children.

It is currently supporting 53 children while others have been sent to live with family members who have been located in other parts of the UK.

The council said more money is needed from the government to help them with migrants otherwise other services could be cut.
150K.....I bet it's more than that.

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

181 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Frankeh said:
Buy up the kids and create the worlds largest children human pyramid.
This.

It'd be awesome, they could travel around the world, comparing themselves to tall monuments and structures.

0a

24,160 posts

225 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Victim, victim, victim story. The BBC should have the guts to run a "future of Greece" story detailing the options available to Greece given it cannot remain in the Euro (and should not).

I suspect the reason they don't is because any reasonable economic analysis concludes that they should default and devalue the new drachma if the greeks are to have any future at all.

Against "the project" you see.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

249 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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anonymous said:
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You're right... it needs to be combined with sterilisation smile

redgriff500

28,982 posts

294 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Sorry but I can't see this has anything to do with us.

Horrific things happen in many parts of the world every day.

If you mean what would I do in their situation... I have no idea as thankfully I've never been in it but I'd turn to crime before my children went hungry.


herewego

8,814 posts

244 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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I'm sure there are lots of people in Greece with plenty of money who can look after the abandoned children so just allow the struggling to hand them in and find new homes for them, but try to get some identification from the parents so that the chilren can find their genetic parents later if they want to.

Disgusted

853 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Somebody should phone the Germans.