New cayman S £50k. New 911 £90k

[C4SHONEY]

Ok so I love the '911' , there I have said it. But almost twice the price for a new 991 over a cayman?!

Is it really twice as good? Not That I am about to walk into a dealer with my cheque book open, but if I was

Option 1) new cayman and ferrari 550 for the weekend
Option 2) new 911


Hmmm..

[shoestring7]

C4SHONEY said:

Ok so I love the '911' , there I have said it. But almost twice the price for a new 991 over a cayman?!

Is it really twice as good? Not That I am about to walk into a dealer with my cheque book open, but if I was

Option 1) new cayman and ferrari 550 for the weekend
Option 2) new 911


Hmmm..

A new 911 is £72k......


SS7

[Mermaid]

shoestring7 said:

A new 911 is £72k......

SS7

I bet you they don't sell that many, if any, at that price. Whereas a large percentage of Caymans will be within £50k.

[Carl_Docklands]

If you have kids, its either a 911 or nothing. That is why Porsche rinse you for another £40k :P

Is it twice as good? Of course not, diminishing returns kicked in with the introduction of the 2.9 Cayman and Boxster.

If you do not have kids, stick to the mid-engined cars, you won't be able to for long.....

[kbf1981]

C4SHONEY said:

Ok so I love the '911' , there I have said it. But almost twice the price for a new 991 over a cayman?!

Is it really twice as good? Not That I am about to walk into a dealer with my cheque book open, but if I was

Option 1) new cayman and ferrari 550 for the weekend
Option 2) new 911


Hmmm..

That's not quite fair.

The Cayman is an older generation - new one will be £5-10k more than the out going.

Plus....running two cars is much more than running one. A guy with a single £100k car is spending less imho than a guy with 2 £50k cars. Insurance alone (on a Ferrari / Porsche would be £1500+ for me), takes care of that.

I agree the Cayman is an awesome car.

[C4SHONEY]

If you go to the Porsche website you can't get a £72k 991 I would want. And yes it just does seem to be an extra £40k for two extra seats. Now that is an expensive option.

It is all a bit silly but I am sure many people have commented before that the cayman has been held back so it does not compete too much with its bigger brother. Not really sure where I am going with this, but would be interesting to see how much profit porsche was making on each car.

[shoestring7]

Mermaid said:

shoestring7 said:

A new 911 is £72k......

SS7

I bet you they don't sell that many, if any, at that price. Whereas a large percentage of Caymans will be within £50k.

A £72k 991 has air, nav, leather, xenons, multi-speaker sound, 19's, a 7 speed 'box, plus 350bhp and 30mpg. That's about the same as your Cayman S, bar metallic paint.

Why add another £20K to VAG's bottom line to turn it into a slightly faster 911Lux?

SS7

[Bubbles996]

I would be surprised if a base 997 cost much more than 10% more than a base Cayman S to produce. I know we now have the 991 but they cannot be compared directly. Most of the extra selling price for the 911 will be pure profit - because they can get away with it. All in my personal opinion with no firm figures, just a manufacturing background with a global multinational.

Edited by Bubbles996 on Tuesday 10th January 20:18

[Mermaid]

Bubbles996 said:

. Most of the extra selling price for the 911 will be pure profit - because they can get away with it. All in my personal opinion with no firm figurs, just a manufacturing background with a global multinational.

Sure,that's how it works, a 64gb iPad does not cost £160 more to produce than a 16gb one. etc etc

Edited by Mermaid on Tuesday 10th January 20:23

[barriejames]

A 911 is not twice as good as a ford focus? But we still love them and break the bank to own them, the rest is hype, it matters not one jot how much more it costs over the Cayman,simply that it is the better car and that really is where the story ends.

[spareparts]

Cayman is a great sportscar in its own right.
The 911 is a great icon in its own right.
Is the 911 twice a Cayman? Not as a car in objective performance terms.
But if you really 'get' what makes the 911 special as a driver and owner, a 911 is worth multiples that of a Cayman.
Give it time, and no other sportscar gets under your skin like a 911.

[mrdemon]

A better car.

Not to some.

Looking forward to the next Cayman s.

[Zyp]

Carl_Docklands said:

If you have kids, its either a 911 or nothing. That is why Porsche rinse you for another £40k :P

Is it twice as good? Of course not, diminishing returns kicked in with the introduction of the 2.9 Cayman and Boxster.

If you do not have kids, stick to the mid-engined cars, you won't be able to for long.....

No, no, no.....
I have a Spyder, and two kids (and a wife)

I had a 911, and two kids (and a wife)

Don't be defeatist, it can be done.

[Mermaid]

shoestring7 said:

Mermaid said:

shoestring7 said:

A new 911 is £72k......

SS7

I bet you they don't sell that many, if any, at that price. Whereas a large percentage of Caymans will be within £50k.

A £72k 991 has air, nav, leather, xenons, multi-speaker sound, 19's, a 7 speed 'box, plus 350bhp and 30mpg. That's about the same as your Cayman S, bar metallic paint.

Why add another £20K to VAG's bottom line to turn it into a slightly faster 911Lux?

SS7

May I refer you to what a Porsche salesman says about the average value of a 991

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[Nurburgsingh]

barriejames said:

A 911 is not twice as good as a ford focus?

I think you'll find it is....

Significantly more than twice as good as a focus...

To the point where the focus is looking like a really expensive car...,

... Unless its a £2k st170, but the closest you'll get to a 911 for £4k is a 4 pot boxer with the VW badge on the lid!!

[rob.kellock]

Zyp said:

No, no, no.....
I have a Spyder, and two kids (and a wife)

I had a 911, and two kids (and a wife)
Don't be defeatist, it can be done.

Me too!!

[bqf]

C4SHONEY said:

Ok so I love the '911' , there I have said it. But almost twice the price for a new 991 over a cayman?!

Is it really twice as good? Not That I am about to walk into a dealer with my cheque book open, but if I was

Option 1) new cayman and ferrari 550 for the weekend
Option 2) new 911


Hmmm..

Or

1. Ferrari 550 and year old Boxster Spyder, and a weeks hollibobs in Barbados
2. Nicely specced 991.

Now there's a head-scratcher.

[pete.g]

I specced a 991 on the configurator - ended up at £79500, without having gone mad.

I did do one configuration as an experiment and ended up over £100k, which means you could spec an S up to £110k plus.

(If you want a laugh, select 'Lime Gold' as an exterior colour, with wheels in exterior colour and PCCB - the yellow calipers and the green wheels clash fantastically. I went with a red interior - it was gloriously horrible.)

[DT398]

I did that a while ago. Yellow car, brown hood and red wheels with blue leather. That would be a brave call..

£90k for a cooking 991 or for the same sort of money (and less depreciation) you could have
http://ucl.porsche.de/ucl/plsql/uk/clients.show_ca...

[Nurburgsingh]

Both of those combos will be arriving with a footballers wife/reality TV 'star' soon!!