Run Flats, implications..
Run Flats, implications..
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edo

Original Poster:

16,699 posts

286 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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So I've found a nice cheap set of part worn tyres for the P38. (Dont really want to spend 10% of the value of the car on new tyres!)

The set I have found are the right load etc, but are runflats. Any major issues with fitting these, or a no-no?

(wheels are 18", and the tyres are Continental 255 55 18 Runflat 4x4 Winter SSR

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

252 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Well Im not sure about the fit, but they are hatful things.

First thing I do is remove them, when I get a car fitted with them.

kambites

70,386 posts

242 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Major Fallout said:
Well Im not sure about the fit, but they are hatful things.

First thing I do is remove them, when I get a car fitted with them.
That's probably why there are part worn ones going cheap. hehe

edo

Original Poster:

16,699 posts

286 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Fair point. The ride on the RR is pretty soft so I was thinking it might not be as bad as on a "normal" ??

SooperDan

240 posts

169 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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On an 18" rim the ride quality will be quite badly impaired I should imagine. I have them on a 17" rim and thats bad enough. Also, if the tyre gets damaged a lot of garages won't repair them because they can't guarantee the work.

Some things to consider.

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

200 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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edo said:
Fair point. The ride on the RR is pretty soft so I was thinking it might not be as bad as on a "normal" ??
It will just be soft and crashy at the same time.

edo

Original Poster:

16,699 posts

286 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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SooperDan said:
On an 18" rim the ride quality will be quite badly impaired I should imagine. I have them on a 17" rim and thats bad enough. Also, if the tyre gets damaged a lot of garages won't repair them because they can't guarantee the work.

Some things to consider.
Is that on a P38?

anonymous-user

75 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Do you have tyre pressure sensors? If not then run flats are a no no.

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

252 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Normally instead of squashing and giving a little when they hit a pothole, they transfer all the impact to the rim.

Make sure you have strong wheels.

edo

Original Poster:

16,699 posts

286 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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St John Smythe said:
Do you have tyre pressure sensors? If not then run flats are a no no.
Another good point. Arse.

hman

7,497 posts

215 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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If your vehicle didnt come with them as standard I should imagine they will feel very stiff indeed.

If your car did come with them as standard then they should feel normal

If your car came with Runflats and you are fitting non-runflats then I would expect the handling to feel soft as the engineers would have developed the car with runflats fitted and so should have taken into account their affect on ride quality.

I have runflats on the bimmer and whilst they are stiff they arent too bad- depends on your car and the roads around where you live I suppose.

Last thing- you should have tyre pressure monitoring fitted and activated when using run flats as they dont go flat when punctured - the stiff side wall keeps them roughly the same rolling radiusso you could overheat the tyre in a low pressure scenario and have the tyre delaminate if you dont know that its running at low or no pressure .

I was interested to note that BMW use the wheel speed as the inidcator of a flat tyre as when the tyre deflates and it runs on its sidewalls it reduces in rolling radius and therefore has to run quicker to keep up with the speed of the car...

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

200 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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hman said:
If your vehicle didnt come with them as standard I should imagine they will feel very stiff indeed.

If your car did come with them as standard then they should feel normal
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I have runflats on the bimmer and whilst they are stiff they arent too bad
Popular myth put about by BMW.

Put proper tyres on your "designed for runflats" BMW and discover a whole new car that is better in every way.

Panda76

2,583 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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MOT failure to have runflats and no Tyre pressure monitor.
Also very dangerous and you might explode.

CBR JGWRR

6,573 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Panda76 said:
MOT failure to have runflats and no Tyre pressure monitor.
Also very dangerous and the tyre might explode.
Though you may after the bill comes in...

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

267 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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edo said:
Dont really want to spend 10% of the value of the car on new tyres!
Doesn't sound at all bad to me. I've paid 25% the value of a car!

Panda76

2,583 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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laugh Yeah pretty much

Fish981

1,441 posts

206 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Panda76 said:
MOT failure to have runflats and no Tyre pressure monitor.
Not according to the way I've read the manual. A TPMS warning lamp is a fail, no TPMS system when it
wasn't fitted from new isn't.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

225 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
edo said:
Dont really want to spend 10% of the value of the car on new tyres!
Doesn't sound at all bad to me. I've paid 25% the value of a car!
Lightwieghs

I've paid over 100%

monthefish

20,467 posts

252 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Panda76 said:
MOT failure to have runflats and no Tyre pressure monitor.
Also very dangerous and you might explode.
Are you sure about that?

monthefish

20,467 posts

252 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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Fish981 said:
Panda76 said:
MOT failure to have runflats and no Tyre pressure monitor.
Not according to the way I've read the manual. A TPMS warning lamp is a fail, no TPMS system when it
wasn't fitted from new isn't.
Yes, I'm sure my frends Mk1 Z4 had runflats but no TPMS fitted...

Why do people make these claims?