Slowing Tuscan Steering
Slowing Tuscan Steering
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impycelin

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28 posts

255 months

Monday 5th July 2004
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Is there anyway to slow the steering rate on a Tuscan S? Having run my car in and starting go a little faster, above 85 (private road of course) it is leathal! its so hard to palce the thing on the road it just doesnt feel safe. I know theres a lot said about the steering being too quick on these, but I dint realise how much so. Ultimately could you have a slower rack fitted? or maybe higher profile tyres on smaller wheels would take the edge of it.

Lee02

384 posts

267 months

Monday 5th July 2004
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apparently on the MK2 tuscans they have changed the ratio may be worth calling blackpool

T88CAN

3,474 posts

273 months

Monday 5th July 2004
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I`m pretty sure someone on here replaced the standard rack for one off a Tamora can`t remember his/her name might have been wimp!!

davidy

4,485 posts

300 months

Monday 5th July 2004
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Hope I'm not teaching you to suck eggs, but try gripping the wheel very lightly. You will then get good feedback through the wheel and your arse and know what the car is doing. If you grip it too tight and wrestle with the car you will always be fighting the returned feedback, this makes quick rack TVRs very difficult to drive. The wheel really needs only gentle movements to ensure that you know where you are.

davidy

I found a set of Sparco gloves very useful on Trackdays after advice from an instructor as I found I was much more delicate with the wheel (in many types of car), smoother and faster (and spun less!!!)

lady topaz

3,855 posts

270 months

Monday 5th July 2004
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Hi, yeah when I originally bought my Tusc I specified the electronic steering as per the Tamorra, and have never looked back. Very positive and no tram lining or any other probs. I have been led to believe this will now be the norm on all new models.

impycelin

Original Poster:

28 posts

255 months

Monday 5th July 2004
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I have had several cars with quick racks including a TVR, and no im not a wimp. I do not subscribe to the hairy chested thing, rather have a car thats set up right in the first place, Maybe my car is set up wrong but the steering speed combined with the front end skiping on all but the smoothest tarmac makes the car no joy at all to take corners fast, the backend stays planted, but is so softly sprung, it hits the bumpstops on undulating roads.Whos the suspention Guru for tusacns? As it is at the moment, my Fiat coupe 20V Turbo was quicker A to B cross country.

>> Edited by impycelin on Monday 5th July 21:16

>> Edited by impycelin on Monday 5th July 21:23

sideways mostly

2,681 posts

257 months

Tuesday 6th July 2004
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I was struck by the change between the Tuscan I tested a couple of times and the S I ended up buying.The Tuscan steering was very quick and I experienced the same feeling you are describing.The S was much calmer-I understand this is partly a result of suspension changes and partly a result of steering rack revisions.Might be worth a call to the factory to see when they revised the steering of the S as what you are describing sounds more like a 'standard' Tuscon . 'Standard' HA!, as if there were ever anything like a 'standard' TVR-they are all amazing!

RichardD

3,608 posts

261 months

Tuesday 6th July 2004
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impycelin said:
I have had several cars with quick racks including a TVR, and no im not a wimp. I do not subscribe to the hairy chested thing, rather have a car thats set up right in the first place, Maybe my car is set up wrong but the steering speed combined with the front end skiping on all but the smoothest tarmac makes the car no joy at all to take corners fast, the backend stays planted, but is so softly sprung, it hits the bumpstops on undulating roads.Whos the suspention Guru for tusacns? As it is at the moment, my Fiat coupe 20V Turbo was quicker A to B cross country.

Having followed the modern TVR's in Autocar and Evo over the years what you mention is also backed up by many magazine comments. It has been mentioned that controlling such a level of power/weight with such sensitive steering is not an easy task.
Suspension - search the GS for Nitrons.

alans

3,541 posts

272 months

Tuesday 6th July 2004
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mine was a nightmare on all but the smoothest roads, I had a 4 wheel alignment done at racing green and it has totally tranformed the car. Can't recommend it highly enough.

Alan

andyvdg

1,537 posts

299 months

Tuesday 6th July 2004
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It sounds like a geometry check is needed. I owned a 20V Turbo before and there's no way it was faster than my Tuscan. It took a little while to adjust to the quicker steering - but I did adjust to it and now can go quicker.

Cheers,

Andy.

Buster4.2

487 posts

263 months

Thursday 8th July 2004
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impycelin said:
Whos the suspention Guru for tusacns?


Definately speak to Joolz at Joospeed re Nitrons - transformed my Cerb and can be tailor made to your requirements. Money well spent!!

powerlord

771 posts

257 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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impycelin said:
I have had several cars with quick racks including a TVR, and no im not a wimp. I do not subscribe to the hairy chested thing, rather have a car thats set up right in the first place, Maybe my car is set up wrong but the steering speed combined with the front end skiping on all but the smoothest tarmac makes the car no joy at all to take corners fast, the backend stays planted, but is so softly sprung, it hits the bumpstops on undulating roads.Whos the suspention Guru for tusacns? As it is at the moment, my Fiat coupe 20V Turbo was quicker A to B cross country.


If at all possible, get a go in another tuscan. Try your local dealer. I test drove 3 or 4, and all handled totally different, the worst being undrivable as you describe.

I was told by TVR Centre that it's not as simple as getting an S or RR, it's really a setup thing, and each car is different.

If you find one at the dealer that is fine, you'll know it's your setup.

Certainly it sounds like you are describing one of the worst ones I drove.. it would tramline something hellish and fling you 2 feet across the road for no reason... steering wheel bucking around all over the place.

The one I bought in the end is a different beast entirely, yes quick steering, but controllable, and has none of the symptoms you describe.

stu