How serious an accident would you stop for?
Discussion
Say you're one of the first cars at the scene of an accident, or even witness one up ahead, how serious would it need to be to get you to stop and assist? And would you stop and assist, beyond calling it in on 999, bearing in mind how dangerous being on a live carriageway, especially dual carriageway+ is.
you have to go by gut feeling with this
the 'ideal' answer is unless the road is blocked is to stop down stream of the accident and let other's become the 'crash barrier' before HATO / BiB / ISU / trumpton arrive
if the carriage way is blocked or all lanes are stopped a crash scene is relatively safe - certainly on a DC with all the lanes on the side of the accident stopped you've just rubbernecker's bouncing across the central reservation to worry about
mrs MPH and I have a fairly tolerance for stopping but that's because because of our jobs and voluntary work meaning we have scene management training and, casualty care etc, skill and have a reasonable amount of kit in the car (class 3 hi vis , boots/gloves/ kevlar helmet , first aid kit , tools / light rescue kit (tree saw , tow rope, webbing strap , light line , crowbar, fire extinguisher)
the initial actions regardless of whether you are a bystander/ 'informed bystander/ or 999 personnel regardless of colour ( including the traffic wombles)
- your safety
- get help ( mobile phone or orange roadside phone)
- scene safety - not only stopping traffic but Hazchem etc
only then are you going to think about casualty care and if there's more victims than rescuers it's triage time
the 'ideal' answer is unless the road is blocked is to stop down stream of the accident and let other's become the 'crash barrier' before HATO / BiB / ISU / trumpton arrive
if the carriage way is blocked or all lanes are stopped a crash scene is relatively safe - certainly on a DC with all the lanes on the side of the accident stopped you've just rubbernecker's bouncing across the central reservation to worry about
mrs MPH and I have a fairly tolerance for stopping but that's because because of our jobs and voluntary work meaning we have scene management training and, casualty care etc, skill and have a reasonable amount of kit in the car (class 3 hi vis , boots/gloves/ kevlar helmet , first aid kit , tools / light rescue kit (tree saw , tow rope, webbing strap , light line , crowbar, fire extinguisher)
the initial actions regardless of whether you are a bystander/ 'informed bystander/ or 999 personnel regardless of colour ( including the traffic wombles)
- your safety
- get help ( mobile phone or orange roadside phone)
- scene safety - not only stopping traffic but Hazchem etc
only then are you going to think about casualty care and if there's more victims than rescuers it's triage time
The most mundane (probably not the right word but it's late and I've a fair bit of rum in the system, so it'll have to do... now, where was I? Oh yes...) accident I've probably stopped for was a bloke on a motorbike being sideswiped and knocked off in slow-moving traffic.
Just stopped, made sure he was ok and offered myself as a witness if he needed one.
Always happy to stop if it looks that there might be an injury, no matter how small (keep high-viz vest in the car). After all, I'd hope someone would do the same for me.
Just stopped, made sure he was ok and offered myself as a witness if he needed one.
Always happy to stop if it looks that there might be an injury, no matter how small (keep high-viz vest in the car). After all, I'd hope someone would do the same for me.
Depends on the situation. I'm a first aider so I do feel a bit obliged if it looks like someone may have come to harm.
I see/come across a lot of light knocks - mostly due to lack of attention - on the motorway network. I leave them to it.
There's only been one where I stopped when a lad in a modded and stripped Celica had caned it down a slip road before promptly losing grip (it was icy) biting the embankment past the hard shoulder and doing a neat barrel roll.
The silly sod had a steel cantilever tool box in the boot that proceeded to throw all his tools around the car giving him plenty of cuts and knocks to the head; in addition to the grief of being thrown around in the car to start with. He lost conciousness, then woke up and went into shock so he was lucky I was around.
I see/come across a lot of light knocks - mostly due to lack of attention - on the motorway network. I leave them to it.
There's only been one where I stopped when a lad in a modded and stripped Celica had caned it down a slip road before promptly losing grip (it was icy) biting the embankment past the hard shoulder and doing a neat barrel roll.
The silly sod had a steel cantilever tool box in the boot that proceeded to throw all his tools around the car giving him plenty of cuts and knocks to the head; in addition to the grief of being thrown around in the car to start with. He lost conciousness, then woke up and went into shock so he was lucky I was around.
Edited by Frances The Mute on Sunday 15th January 00:37
Id always stop and help if anyone was hurt... Treat others how you wish to be trated comes to mind. When ive been involved in accidents in the past ive always had people stop and help which i cant thank enough for and i think it would only be fair to do the same..... Just think by running a bit late for your journey you could save someones life or help save someone a huge amount of stress if it wasnt serious but became a legal battle as no other party was present! I know how much i would hate it so I think its only fair i do my best to help others if i can!
Two of the recent accidents i've seen recently required me to stop
The first, as the driver was ejected onto the A1 a short distance in front of me, i was able to stop a couple of meters before finishing him off.
The second was due to an illegal immigrants headless carcass falling out from underneath a lorry in front of me on the A3.
Neither were pleasant scenes....
The first, as the driver was ejected onto the A1 a short distance in front of me, i was able to stop a couple of meters before finishing him off.
The second was due to an illegal immigrants headless carcass falling out from underneath a lorry in front of me on the A3.
Neither were pleasant scenes....
I was pretty much first at a fatal a few weeks ago.
Was a bit of a nightmare tbh, so many f
kwits just kept on driving around and trying to squeeze through.
Luckily i had a bib coat in the boot but assholes still had their own agenda and were trying to get through the area.
Cue a total abandonment and block of both lanes of traffic using my car.
Was a bit of a nightmare tbh, so many f
kwits just kept on driving around and trying to squeeze through.Luckily i had a bib coat in the boot but assholes still had their own agenda and were trying to get through the area.
Cue a total abandonment and block of both lanes of traffic using my car.
I always try and help people and have stopped countless times to help people move their broken down car out of the way of traffic that 100's of cars just squeeze past :@
Often helped people bump start their car
The other day there was this old man around 70-80 and he had hit the curb and bust his tyre, i offered my help on changing the wheel for him as he was panicking a fair bit but he was the most ignorant person i have seen in a long time
I even asked him if he wanted me to call a member of his family for him but he was still being rude so i just mumbled a few swear words and was on my way
Often helped people bump start their car
The other day there was this old man around 70-80 and he had hit the curb and bust his tyre, i offered my help on changing the wheel for him as he was panicking a fair bit but he was the most ignorant person i have seen in a long time
I even asked him if he wanted me to call a member of his family for him but he was still being rude so i just mumbled a few swear words and was on my way
B Huey said:
Me and the O/H stopped to help at an accident a few years back. When the BiBs turned they assumed that we must have known the other people in the car and that we had been racing. 
We drove off and left them to it.
interesting turn of events , how comparable was your car, demeanaour and attires in comparison with the people who had crashed ..,, ?We drove off and left them to it.
If you are a witness you are obligated to stop as you may be able to help the Police with any enquirey. If anyone is hurt or needs help I can not understand how anyone who calls themselves a "human being" can drive on.
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mph1977 said:
B Huey said:
Me and the O/H stopped to help at an accident a few years back. When the BiBs turned they assumed that we must have known the other people in the car and that we had been racing.
We drove off and left them to it.
interesting turn of events , how comparable was your car, demeanaour and attires in comparison with the people who had crashed ..,, ?We drove off and left them to it.
They were a group chavs in an MG Metro, and I had Fiat Bravo. We were the first on the scene after they rolled it.
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