Track day newbie - advise for taking R8 please...
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It's been a long while since I did track days. Back in the day I worked for an experience company and did lots of driving the stock cars whenever there were spare slots. I've never brought along my own car for a day. I'd like to get into the activity of track days but I have some questions and concerns which I would be most grateful for some advise:
1. What is the noise limit for an R8 V8
2. Worried about stone chips on pristine paintwork from airfield sites - am I better going to real tracks
3. No disrespect to younger hot hatch drivers but if I'd feel more comfortable on a track with cars of similar speed and value so to avoid accidents. Where are the circuits whe the kids don't tend to goto or where there are less cars and stricter rules on groupings. I saw a recent post from a very nice guy talking about taking his Twingo 1.2 - it's surely a recipe for disaster putting GT3s and R8s on a circuits with shopping cars.
4. What does open pit lane mean?
5. Is insurance worth getting price wise?
6. My tyres are just over legal depth and hence I want to go driving now before have to fork out £1000 for a new set. What is the situation with using tyres with less than 1.6mm tread?
7. Where can I get instruction on a circuit for first timers. is there a particularly good track to recommend to newbies
8. lastly, I have an SLK350 which is actually quite fast but an auto - would it be a good idea to try first this car before bring the R8? Can you book a day with two cars but half each
9. How long do you get on the circuits.
1. What is the noise limit for an R8 V8
2. Worried about stone chips on pristine paintwork from airfield sites - am I better going to real tracks
3. No disrespect to younger hot hatch drivers but if I'd feel more comfortable on a track with cars of similar speed and value so to avoid accidents. Where are the circuits whe the kids don't tend to goto or where there are less cars and stricter rules on groupings. I saw a recent post from a very nice guy talking about taking his Twingo 1.2 - it's surely a recipe for disaster putting GT3s and R8s on a circuits with shopping cars.
4. What does open pit lane mean?
5. Is insurance worth getting price wise?
6. My tyres are just over legal depth and hence I want to go driving now before have to fork out £1000 for a new set. What is the situation with using tyres with less than 1.6mm tread?
7. Where can I get instruction on a circuit for first timers. is there a particularly good track to recommend to newbies
8. lastly, I have an SLK350 which is actually quite fast but an auto - would it be a good idea to try first this car before bring the R8? Can you book a day with two cars but half each
9. How long do you get on the circuits.
Edited by fatboy21 on Sunday 15th January 09:50
1. What is the noise limit for an R8 V8 - Same as any other car, the trackday organiser will show this on their website when booking. Typically between 95-105db.
2. Worried about stone chips on pristine paintwork from airfield sites - am I better going to real tracks - Dunno, I ended up with a cracked windscreen at Cadwell after a stone flicked up from a car infront.
3. No disrespect to younger hot hatch drivers but if I'd feel more comfortable on a track witpecans of similar speed and value so to avoid accidents. Where are the circuits whe the kids don't tend to goto or where there are less cars and stricter rules on groupings. I saw a recent post from a very nice guy taking a Twingo 1.2 - it's surely a recipe for disaster putting GT3s and R8s on a circuits with shopping Carla. - Book a more expensive day then, less likely to be poor people there.
4. What does open pit lane mean? - You can go on/off the track all day and do as many or as few laps as you want. Good if you are having car trouble, someones holding you up or its busy etc, just come in and go out in 5 mins.
5. Is insurance worth getting price wise? - Can you afford to write off your R8?
6. My tyres are just over legal depth and hence I want to go driving now before have to fork out £1000 for a new set. What is the situation with using tyres with less than 1.6mm tread? - Should probably be fine, but how do you plan on driving home?
7. Where can I get instruction on a circuit for first timers. is there a particularly good track to recommend to newbies - Most organisers offer tuition.
8. lastly, I have an SLK350 which is actually quite fast but an auto - would it be a good idea to try first this car before bring the R8? Can you book a day with two cars but half each - Will depend on who you book with, best emailing and asking.
9. How long do you get on the circuits - Will say on the organisers website, probably 9:30-12:30 then 1:30-5.00pm something along those lines. You will be pretty knackered by then.
2. Worried about stone chips on pristine paintwork from airfield sites - am I better going to real tracks - Dunno, I ended up with a cracked windscreen at Cadwell after a stone flicked up from a car infront.
3. No disrespect to younger hot hatch drivers but if I'd feel more comfortable on a track witpecans of similar speed and value so to avoid accidents. Where are the circuits whe the kids don't tend to goto or where there are less cars and stricter rules on groupings. I saw a recent post from a very nice guy taking a Twingo 1.2 - it's surely a recipe for disaster putting GT3s and R8s on a circuits with shopping Carla. - Book a more expensive day then, less likely to be poor people there.
4. What does open pit lane mean? - You can go on/off the track all day and do as many or as few laps as you want. Good if you are having car trouble, someones holding you up or its busy etc, just come in and go out in 5 mins.
5. Is insurance worth getting price wise? - Can you afford to write off your R8?
6. My tyres are just over legal depth and hence I want to go driving now before have to fork out £1000 for a new set. What is the situation with using tyres with less than 1.6mm tread? - Should probably be fine, but how do you plan on driving home?
7. Where can I get instruction on a circuit for first timers. is there a particularly good track to recommend to newbies - Most organisers offer tuition.
8. lastly, I have an SLK350 which is actually quite fast but an auto - would it be a good idea to try first this car before bring the R8? Can you book a day with two cars but half each - Will depend on who you book with, best emailing and asking.
9. How long do you get on the circuits - Will say on the organisers website, probably 9:30-12:30 then 1:30-5.00pm something along those lines. You will be pretty knackered by then.
fatboy21 said:
It's been a long while since I did track days. Back in the day I worked for an experience company and did lots of driving the stock cars whenever there were spare slots. I've never brought along my own car for a day. I'd like to get into the activity of track days but I have some questions and concerns which I would be most grateful for some advise:
1. What is the noise limit for an R8 V8
2. Worried about stone chips on pristine paintwork from airfield sites - am I better going to real tracks
3. No disrespect to younger hot hatch drivers but if I'd feel more comfortable on a track witpecans of similar speed and value so to avoid accidents. Where are the circuits whe the kids don't tend to goto or where there are less cars and stricter rules on groupings. I saw a recent post from a very nice guy taking a Twingo 1.2 - it's surely a recipe for disaster putting GT3s and R8s on a circuits with shopping Carla.
4. What does open pit lane mean?
5. Is insurance worth getting price wise?
6. My tyres are just over legal depth and hence I want to go driving now before have to fork out £1000 for a new set. What is the situation with using tyres with less than 1.6mm tread?
7. Where can I get instruction on a circuit for first timers. is there a particularly good track to recommend to newbies
8. lastly, I have an SLK350 which is actually quite fast but an auto - would it be a good idea to try first this car before bring the R8? Can you book a day with two cars but half each
9. How long do you get on the circuits.
1. An R8 with a standard exhaust should be OK for most events, if you've got a loud pipe on it then it may sound great but I'd get the levels checked before booking. 1. What is the noise limit for an R8 V8
2. Worried about stone chips on pristine paintwork from airfield sites - am I better going to real tracks
3. No disrespect to younger hot hatch drivers but if I'd feel more comfortable on a track witpecans of similar speed and value so to avoid accidents. Where are the circuits whe the kids don't tend to goto or where there are less cars and stricter rules on groupings. I saw a recent post from a very nice guy taking a Twingo 1.2 - it's surely a recipe for disaster putting GT3s and R8s on a circuits with shopping Carla.
4. What does open pit lane mean?
5. Is insurance worth getting price wise?
6. My tyres are just over legal depth and hence I want to go driving now before have to fork out £1000 for a new set. What is the situation with using tyres with less than 1.6mm tread?
7. Where can I get instruction on a circuit for first timers. is there a particularly good track to recommend to newbies
8. lastly, I have an SLK350 which is actually quite fast but an auto - would it be a good idea to try first this car before bring the R8? Can you book a day with two cars but half each
9. How long do you get on the circuits.
2. You are less likely to get stone damage on a track than an airfield, obviously it's possible anywhere but that goes for road driving as well.
3. I wouldn't worry too much about this TBH. There's plenty of nobheads with expensive cars as well and if you take your R8 to a trackday you will be overtaken by some hot-hatches at some point during the day, nothing to worry about but some of these cars are track prepped and driven by experienced track drivers.
4 What Berger said.
5. Depends on circuit to some extent and your level of risk aversion, depth of pockets and likelihood to get carried away and fire it into a barrier! Insurance for the day would probably cost about the same as the trackday entry, maybe a bit more so if you want the reassurance for the first time then get it.
6. Low tread is probably fine if it's dry but could start to get tricky in the wet, depending on track and driver you may only lose 1mm over the day but you do have too get home afterwards.
7. What Berger said.
8. Some will let you do this but I'd say the R8 will be a better thing on track and using the Merc first won't really give you any advantage.
9. What Berger said.
Thanks everyone. That's very useful.
The reason for the Merc question is that it's my old car and I know it very well. plus the traction control while annoying makes sure I don't oversteer while I'm just getting my bearings. I think I'm worried about a very busy track being no different from the road
Can I just say that what I want from the trackway is obviously to have lots of racing fun but on my first day, I really want a test circuit to try outtry new car. I think I have hit a bit of a mental block and am slightly nervous with the R8 - it is very fast and more worrying for me than the SLK (which trust me is no slouch 0-60 in 5.5 sec with grok art handling). In the R8, the traction control is set to come in quite late meaning you get oversteer. This is great when you have lots of space and some practice but no good when your already wide car is on a country lane. You only have to dab the throttle to get the wheels spinning on a wet road. So although I have driven 1500 miles in the thing, I still don't really fell like I am the master of it and I know how to properly hadnle it at its potential
What I want from a first track day is SPACE and runoff so i can gradually build up speed and practice taking corners at progressively faster speeds and inducing power slide. I want to have the space to learn about this car.
I am wondering is I am better first doing one of those skid pan tracks so I can feel the balance of the thing.
What is it like when you are power sliding or correcting and oversteer and there are people behind you- do they give space?
Lastly - stupid question perhaps but can you buy fuel at these places and change wheels?
The reason for the Merc question is that it's my old car and I know it very well. plus the traction control while annoying makes sure I don't oversteer while I'm just getting my bearings. I think I'm worried about a very busy track being no different from the road
Can I just say that what I want from the trackway is obviously to have lots of racing fun but on my first day, I really want a test circuit to try outtry new car. I think I have hit a bit of a mental block and am slightly nervous with the R8 - it is very fast and more worrying for me than the SLK (which trust me is no slouch 0-60 in 5.5 sec with grok art handling). In the R8, the traction control is set to come in quite late meaning you get oversteer. This is great when you have lots of space and some practice but no good when your already wide car is on a country lane. You only have to dab the throttle to get the wheels spinning on a wet road. So although I have driven 1500 miles in the thing, I still don't really fell like I am the master of it and I know how to properly hadnle it at its potential
What I want from a first track day is SPACE and runoff so i can gradually build up speed and practice taking corners at progressively faster speeds and inducing power slide. I want to have the space to learn about this car.
I am wondering is I am better first doing one of those skid pan tracks so I can feel the balance of the thing.
What is it like when you are power sliding or correcting and oversteer and there are people behind you- do they give space?
Lastly - stupid question perhaps but can you buy fuel at these places and change wheels?
Fuel is available at most circuits including Bedford, there's a paddock area where you can do any spannering but not usually much in the way of tech backup.
There's a fine line on the drifting/sliding issue, if you are making lots of tyre noise or looking out of control you are likely to be black flagged (pulled in) on a trackday. It can be done within sensible levels, in fact a certain amount is almost inevitable but the circuit get to judge that so you need to be aware of how you do it, especially making sure that you are well away from other cars as you do it.
There's a fine line on the drifting/sliding issue, if you are making lots of tyre noise or looking out of control you are likely to be black flagged (pulled in) on a trackday. It can be done within sensible levels, in fact a certain amount is almost inevitable but the circuit get to judge that so you need to be aware of how you do it, especially making sure that you are well away from other cars as you do it.
Was just about to post this on the other thread answering your questions but saw this instead... its still relevant I think!
Bedfords great. The best place bar none for a Beginner in my experience. I regularly take my F430 without insurance. And even on busy days I have never come close to having any sort of collision thankfully.
Seen quite a few R8's there and as standard I think they are fine noise wise as far as I know. If you are local. You can pop along to bedford for a free test if u call to arrange.
Saw my first R8 GT last time I was at Bedford. Rare cars!
There were 2 other R8s there that day as well
You can see one R8 on this video I took on same day
Its at 3.18
http://youtu.be/kvZtFUJHFV0
I'll probably be there next week and will show you around if you like or take for passenger ride. I would 100% reccomend having a pro instructor take you around for at least 1 session
You will normally have MORE than enough time on circuit... facilites are great with fuel etc etc
As for tyres... the only thing I would say is be careful starting on heavily used tyres as you can get caught out and end up driving home on very illegal tyres!!! happened to me when I destroyed a set of 911 rears after getting too excited!!
hope to see you at Bedford and enjoy!
Bedfords great. The best place bar none for a Beginner in my experience. I regularly take my F430 without insurance. And even on busy days I have never come close to having any sort of collision thankfully.
Seen quite a few R8's there and as standard I think they are fine noise wise as far as I know. If you are local. You can pop along to bedford for a free test if u call to arrange.
Saw my first R8 GT last time I was at Bedford. Rare cars!
There were 2 other R8s there that day as well
You can see one R8 on this video I took on same day
Its at 3.18 http://youtu.be/kvZtFUJHFV0
I'll probably be there next week and will show you around if you like or take for passenger ride. I would 100% reccomend having a pro instructor take you around for at least 1 session
You will normally have MORE than enough time on circuit... facilites are great with fuel etc etc
As for tyres... the only thing I would say is be careful starting on heavily used tyres as you can get caught out and end up driving home on very illegal tyres!!! happened to me when I destroyed a set of 911 rears after getting too excited!!
hope to see you at Bedford and enjoy!
Edited by Porkie on Sunday 15th January 13:29
Edited by Porkie on Sunday 15th January 13:30
Edited by Porkie on Sunday 15th January 13:35
Porkie said:
Was just about to post this on the other thread answering your questions but saw this instead... its still relevant I think!
Bedfords great. The best place bar none for a Beginner in my experience. I regularly take my F430 without insurance. And even on busy days I have never come close to having any sort of collision thankfully.
Seen quite a few R8's there and as standard I think they are fine noise wise as far as I know. If you are local. You can pop along to bedford for a free test if u call to arrange.
Saw my first R8 GT last time I was at Bedford. Rare cars!
There were 2 other R8s there that day as well
You can see one R8 on this video I took on same day Its at 3.18
http://youtu.be/kvZtFUJHFV0
I'll probably be there next week and will show you around if you like or take for passenger ride. I would 100% reccomend having a pro instructor take you around for at least 1 session
You will normally have MORE than enough time on circuit... facilites are great with fuel etc etc
As for tyres... the only thing I would say is be careful starting on heavily used tyres as you can get caught out and end up driving home on very illegal tyres!!! happened to me when I destroyed a set of 911 rears after getting too excited!!
hope to see you at Bedford and enjoy!
Wow wow wow wow. I am very excited now.Bedfords great. The best place bar none for a Beginner in my experience. I regularly take my F430 without insurance. And even on busy days I have never come close to having any sort of collision thankfully.
Seen quite a few R8's there and as standard I think they are fine noise wise as far as I know. If you are local. You can pop along to bedford for a free test if u call to arrange.
Saw my first R8 GT last time I was at Bedford. Rare cars!
There were 2 other R8s there that day as well
You can see one R8 on this video I took on same day
Its at 3.18 http://youtu.be/kvZtFUJHFV0
I'll probably be there next week and will show you around if you like or take for passenger ride. I would 100% reccomend having a pro instructor take you around for at least 1 session
You will normally have MORE than enough time on circuit... facilites are great with fuel etc etc
As for tyres... the only thing I would say is be careful starting on heavily used tyres as you can get caught out and end up driving home on very illegal tyres!!! happened to me when I destroyed a set of 911 rears after getting too excited!!
hope to see you at Bedford and enjoy!
Edited by Porkie on Sunday 15th January 13:29
Edited by Porkie on Sunday 15th January 13:30
Edited by Porkie on Sunday 15th January 13:35
I am booking for sure now. Where's the best place to book. There is the aerodrome site itself but they don't have a date until 28th (I think). I think the one on the 21st is through track days.co.uk.
Do I need to book the pro instructor in advance or can I do it when I get there with the circuit?
What car will you be bringing so I can look out for you?
porkie
Great driving. Impressed with the way you handled a couple of those oversteers. I imagine that Westfield is a bit like a go-kart. How did you get on versus that 911 at the end of the video.
As I've experienced myself and been told by Audi techs who like to track day, the problem with the R8 traction control is it is slow to come on so you can oversteer a little and it let's you but the downside is you then start to fight it as you are busy turning into the slide, the power drops and you then fight the other way as it comes on again. I haven't had the chance to really ge to grips with that and this is the main tng I want from the track day. Maybe the next time I will turn the traction control off.
I forgot mention my tread is 3mm at rear and 1.7 at front. I will be replacing tyres soon anyway so this is a good chance to use up the grip at the back. I have to make sure it's a dry day otherwise I simply cannot go on these tyres.
I'm very excited. I would really appreciate you showing me the ropes a little when we get there
Great driving. Impressed with the way you handled a couple of those oversteers. I imagine that Westfield is a bit like a go-kart. How did you get on versus that 911 at the end of the video.
As I've experienced myself and been told by Audi techs who like to track day, the problem with the R8 traction control is it is slow to come on so you can oversteer a little and it let's you but the downside is you then start to fight it as you are busy turning into the slide, the power drops and you then fight the other way as it comes on again. I haven't had the chance to really ge to grips with that and this is the main tng I want from the track day. Maybe the next time I will turn the traction control off.
I forgot mention my tread is 3mm at rear and 1.7 at front. I will be replacing tyres soon anyway so this is a good chance to use up the grip at the back. I have to make sure it's a dry day otherwise I simply cannot go on these tyres.
I'm very excited. I would really appreciate you showing me the ropes a little when we get there
I wouldn't presume that you would be quicker than a 1.2 whatever on your first track day
It is likely that you will get lapped by some very humble machinery indeed.
Just focus on having fun, keep out of everyone's way and definitely take as many pax rides as you can and some instruction and you will have a load of fun
Good luck!
It is likely that you will get lapped by some very humble machinery indeed.
Just focus on having fun, keep out of everyone's way and definitely take as many pax rides as you can and some instruction and you will have a load of fun
Good luck!
fatboy21 said:
1. What is the noise limit for an R8 V8
Generally 95-105db. Some tracks do a static test, and some do a drive by. You should be fine though. Big exhaust turbo cars are usually the ones that suffer.fatboy21 said:
2. Worried about stone chips on pristine paintwork from airfield sites - am I better going to real tracks
Buy a car bra Subaru paint is s
t, yet I don't seem to have had an issue with this. fatboy21 said:
3. No disrespect to younger hot hatch drivers but if I'd feel more comfortable on a track with cars of similar speed and value so to avoid accidents. Where are the circuits whe the kids don't tend to goto or where there are less cars and stricter rules on groupings. I saw a recent post from a very nice guy talking about taking his Twingo 1.2 - it's surely a recipe for disaster putting GT3s and R8s on a circuits with shopping cars.
Assumption Failure Never judge a driver by their car. Lightweight Caterhams and some well sorted hot hatches could well make you look silly. Also, some modified Jap crap may be faster than you might think fatboy21 said:
4. What does open pit lane mean?
You can go out on track when you want. fatboy21 said:
5. Is insurance worth getting price wise?
Yes. It's not always 1% either. Some companies get more competitive as the value of the car increases.fatboy21 said:
6. My tyres are just over legal depth and hence I want to go driving now before have to fork out £1000 for a new set. What is the situation with using tyres with less than 1.6mm tread?
Depends on conditions. But bear in mind that road tyres are not designed to work well when they are worn badly. However, tyres with lots of tread overhead and melt (as I found out with a brand new set of Bridgestones) fatboy21 said:
7. Where can I get instruction on a circuit for first timers. is there a particularly good track to recommend to newbies
Book the instructor for 20 mins. It makes a massive difference. I have done this a few times now.fatboy21 said:
8. lastly, I have an SLK350 which is actually quite fast but an auto - would it be a good idea to try first this car before bring the R8? Can you book a day with two cars but half each
My mate with an auto complains his brakes overheat.fatboy21 said:
9. How long do you get on the circuits.
All day on a open pit lane day. I tend to drive 30 mins in every hour. paulmoonraker said:
fatboy21 said:
Assumption Failure Never judge a driver by their car. Lightweight Caterhams and some well sorted hot hatches could well make you look silly. Also, some modified Jap crap may be faster than you might think ;-)
Many thanks for all your answers - very helpful as i get a feel for the tracks and people who do this. Never judge a driver by their car. Lightweight Caterhams and some well sorted hot hatches could well make you look silly. Also, some modified Jap crap may be faster than you might think ;-)On the point above, you are one of a number of people who has pointed this out (not to judge driver by car) and I respect that immensely and quite like the comradery. Nothing i despise more than rich kids and their Dad's Gaillardo and a fat wallet to pay for damage, thinking their are the dog's b
ks. Nothing more i respect than a engineer type in his shed modifying his Westfield or even up0grading a Clio for example. But as i have replied on a couple of threads now, i am simply making a general assumption (and by the nature of a generalisation it will catch people unfairly but in this game of odds and risk, that was my point entirely) which is that i believe is that smaller hot hatches are MORE LIKELY to be driven by younger testosterone fueled guys in their mid-twenties who have much much less road and life experience. They think they are invincible and that gravity does not apply to them, oil spills never occur in front of them. If i was 22 and i had a hot hatch and i was a nifty driver with a few track days experience, and i saw a flash R8 driving at speed but not uncatchable, then would i have been tempted to show him up on a corner and tell everyone in the pub later? Yes - yes i would have done that and i think most youngsters would. And 9 times out of 10 they will corner perfectly and pull it off. But the one time they screw up, they smash up a very expensive car and they walk away with a written off hatchback that they can perhaps replace more easily or dare i make another assumption but push it out the gates and have a mate say that he crashed into and make a claim? Look i dont know and i'm probably a bitout of line here but you can see where i am coming from as ive never been before and dont know the types. When i used to work at an experience day company, some of the guys were on Stag Dos and were total t
ts and tried to impress their mates instead of listening to the professional instructors. A good driver is someone who knows his limits and that of the car and conditions. A mature driver is someone who can temper his urge to drive that bit faster than he is ready to because of a perceived risk and 'is it worth it' attitude. There will always be another bend with less traffic.
I dunno - just waffling now - sorry - my two pennies - im not sure if anyone agrees with any of this or can remember back to their first time....
fatboy21 said:
8. lastly, I have an SLK350 which is actually quite fast but an auto - would it be a good idea to try first this car before bring the R8? Can you book a day with two cars but half each
My mate with an auto complains his brakes overheat.Funny you say that because i found that problem too just on normal A roads when you have that straight and a roundabout ever half mile for about 10 miles. Awesome driving fun but by the end, the brake light comes on.
fatboy21 said:
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i kinda see what you are saying, but as you said, you haven't been to any trackdays.as long as you don't go to the cheapest, grottiest day, you get very few chavs (which is what you appear to be, understandably, worried about)
i can't stress enough how often it is the case that there is a 997gt3rs, a DB9 and (dare i say it) and R8 in a 3 way battle for outright slowest car of the day. It is never the cars, always the driver, if you are pootling round squirting down the straights and s
tting yourself in the corners you will get lapped by everyone.Honestly, chill out. Go and have fun, keep to your own limits and if you have some bell end hassling you, ease off the accelerator down the next straight and make them go past. You should never get someone diving down the inside of you into a corner because it is not allowed. You can only overtake on the left, down a straight, by consent. Everybody (organisers and fellow attendees) takes a VERY dim view of anyone who flouts these rules because that is when cars get smashed up.
Stop stressing and just go. You'll love it!!!
Porkie said:
Tremendous fun to watch! 
I think many of us (myself included) would have been spinning like a top at the first corner in that beast.
To be honest, you need to accept that there is a risk at any track day and that somebody as you describe will turn up. Companies like Javelin are very strict and throw tts off, but it still might occur.
If insurance is a problem, but you still harbour concerns, then I suggest you don't go to a track day.
I don't know where your based, but RAF Woodbridge and RAF Cottesmore have massive run off areas. North Wield also do days where there is only one car out at a time across a couple of smaller circuits.
ts off, but it still might occur.If insurance is a problem, but you still harbour concerns, then I suggest you don't go to a track day.
I don't know where your based, but RAF Woodbridge and RAF Cottesmore have massive run off areas. North Wield also do days where there is only one car out at a time across a couple of smaller circuits.
I have seen an R8 fail a noise test and go home at a 100dB day at Brands Hatch. Turn up to an earlier trackday and get it measured if you are unsure.
Not sure whether the R8 was V8 or V10 but it was standard and unmodified. It only exceeded the noise limit by a small margin but was still unable to run.
Not sure whether the R8 was V8 or V10 but it was standard and unmodified. It only exceeded the noise limit by a small margin but was still unable to run.
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