Setting up a CSA payment
Setting up a CSA payment
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steveo825

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87 posts

182 months

Sunday 15th January 2012
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Hey

Went through a separation last year when I found out the girlfriend was up to no good with a married man.
Anyways we have a 2 year old together and I had been paying maintenance for him via a mutual agreement. Last week we had a bit of an argument and within an hour she had called the CSA and told them I had payed nothing for my child since last June, and how they will be back dating to then. (unsure if she's bluffing)
The question I have is. Is it better to go through the CSA to avoid this happening in 10years time?
I do pay more than I have to in our mutual agreement. But there is no record.

Having a look on CSA website using their calculator Works out less than what I give her at present.

I've read a lot of threads about people being shafted by the CSA. Any help greatly appreciated

randlemarcus

13,632 posts

248 months

Sunday 15th January 2012
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You've really been paying cash to someone you have been having huge arguments with? No receipts, no bank transfers etc? You foolish boy.

As regards ongoing payments, yes, its probably better for keeping things straight to go via the CSA, as at present, there are no charges they take off either end, and then she can't blindside you again.

Backdating - nope, they will only backdate to the date of the claim plus 28 days (IIRC), so if she claimed 01/01/12, then the payments start from 01/02/12. Check my figures on that, as I might be out on the 28 days. It's worth noting that if she persists in going via the CSA, she should only expect the money they require, and that payments between now and the date the CSA tell you to start paying are entirely voluntary.

Start keeping an accurate record of when you have overnight custody of your child, as if that exceeds one night per week on average (i.e. every other weekend, the amount you have to pay is reduced by 1/7th). Also note that it's the figure on the bottom right of your payslip that they care about, i.e. after pension etc.

steveo825

Original Poster:

87 posts

182 months

Sunday 15th January 2012
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Yes I'm aware how foolish I've been. Never thought she would stoop that low however.

She can only backdate to the date she made the claim? She is quite adamant they will be going back nearly a year. Possibly another bluff.

Unfortunately she is no longer working and my son was taken out of nursery so he now stays @ home with her 5days a week. I have him on the weekends.

Is this something worth contacting my solicitor over?

Really appreciate the info

randlemarcus

13,632 posts

248 months

Sunday 15th January 2012
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Financially, it's probably not worth contacting your solicitor over, as it's all fairly straightforward. This assumes that there was no financial order made at the time of the divorce. If there was, and it's less than a year old, continue paying according to that, as the CSA have no part to play.

Please set up a bank transfer, or pay by cheque from today onwards - you need a paper trail from this point onwards. This will cause ructions, but f&*k her. She should also be aware that, while the CSA will encourage you to pay her directly, you have the option of paying them (purely to maintain the paper trail, natch) which will add a week or so delay.

The CSA are bound by their own rules, so wander over to their website and read up on them. I can confirm that they can only get money from you from the date of the claim, and that there is a period of non-payment while they go through things.

If your child stays with you two nights a week, as a rule of thumb, take your monthly take home, divide by 100, multiply by fifteen,write that figure down (call it figure A), divide that by seven, and multiply by two - call that figure B. Subtract Figure B from Figure A, and that's your monthly handover figure.

steveo825

Original Poster:

87 posts

182 months

Sunday 15th January 2012
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Thankfully we never got married. I pulled the plug on the engagement.

This is excellent advice I can't thank you enough.


PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

174 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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Your liability to child maintenance via the CSA only starts to accrue from the date they first contact you. They do not have the power to backdate beyond that, so yes what she claims is complete bullst.

steveo825

Original Poster:

87 posts

182 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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I have been in touch with the CSA today. And they have no record of a claim made by my ex partner last week.

I have set up a claim with them and am due to send payslips etc

randlemarcus

13,632 posts

248 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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steveo825 said:
I have been in touch with the CSA today. And they have no record of a claim made by my ex partner last week.

I have set up a claim with them and am due to send payslips etc
Irony rofl when she gets notified.

Can you get "reap the whirlwind" cards from Moonpig?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

174 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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steveo825 said:
I have been in touch with the CSA today. And they have no record of a claim made by my ex partner last week.

I have set up a claim with them and am due to send payslips etc
Welcome to a whole new world of pain and frustration .....

irked

steveo825

Original Poster:

87 posts

182 months

Monday 16th January 2012
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Welcome to a whole new world of pain and frustration .....

irked
How do you mean?
Surely going through the CSA is the best method in terms of being able to get proper visiting arrangements in place.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

174 months

Tuesday 17th January 2012
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steveo825 said:
How do you mean?
Surely going through the CSA is the best method in terms of being able to get proper visiting arrangements in place.
Absolutely not, the CSA are not now and never have been responsible for child contact arrangements. In fact, their system rewards the resident parent with more child maintenance the more contact is reduced. Go figure ....

If your contact is being obstructed then you only have one recourse and that is the County Court. A different world of pain a frustration I'm afraid.

D1ngd0ng

1,014 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Welcome to a whole new world of pain and frustration .....

irked
This and you can expect any overnight contact to be withdrawn as soon as she realises that the less you see the more you pay (don't bother to protest it really is futile)