RE: Morgan heads for Le Mans (sort of)
RE: Morgan heads for Le Mans (sort of)
Wednesday 18th January 2012

Morgan heads for Le Mans (sort of)

Oak-Pescarolo LMP2 will compete with Morgan badges at the Circuit de La Sarthe


Charles Morgan with Oak boss Jacques Nicolet
Charles Morgan with Oak boss Jacques Nicolet
The Morgan Motor Company is to return to Le Mans (or at least its badge is) to compete in the LMP2 prototype class.

Like this, but with a Morgan badge...
Like this, but with a Morgan badge...
As part of a programme that celebrate 50 years since a Morgan achieved a class win (back in 1962 with a Plus 4 Supersport) the British sports car manufacturer has inked a deal with French team OAK racing for the works OAK entry in the FIA World Endurance Championship, which includes Le Mans, to run with Morgan branding.

"It is a source of great pride that we have the opportunity to work with a racing car designer and constructor that has achieved such success on the international stage," said Morgan boss Charles Morgan. "While Morgan sportscars enjoy a great history, we have also gained a reputation for pioneering new technology, and I believe LMP2 represents a superb proving ground in which to develop innovative new methods."

Morgan's last Le Mans effort
Morgan's last Le Mans effort
Although the Oak-Pescarolo Morgan will be built in the 'Technoparc' within the 'infield' section of the Le Mans circuit it will, technically, be the first time Morgan has been represented at Le Mans since the GT2-class Aero 8R from 2004.

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phillpot

Original Poster:

17,508 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Whatever next...TVR badge on a Porsche ?

V8 FOU

3,023 posts

176 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Errr..... What? What next? BMW makes an assault on Le Mans under the Mini badge (Hmm been done on the Dakar)
How about resurecting the Reliant "brand" on an Ascari or whatever? Del Boy does Le Mans..

andy_roe

78 posts

259 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Yes, and part of the deal was to replace all the carbon fibre bits of the car with wood....

Roy C

4,213 posts

313 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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...and a sliding pillar front suspension. biggrin

DanDC5

19,992 posts

196 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Seems similar to putting a Caterham badge on an F1 car really...

toppstuff

13,698 posts

276 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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This is either something of a sell-out by Charles Morgan or , instead, the start of something very interesting.

Morgan has traditionally been able to achieve great things with its own cars. The fact that they have chosen to "brand" another race car could be very disappointing, if it was not for the statement that they plan to use the race car to test parts and technology for Morgan. If they REALLY do this, then it is a good thing. If they do not, and it is in fact just a case of slapping a Morgan badge on a race car that has nothing to do with them, then it is a very bad show. A bad show indeed.

Roadster25

272 posts

191 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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andy_roe said:
Yes, and part of the deal was to replace all the carbon fibre bits of the car with wood....
Although presumably not with ash in this case...biggrin

dandarez

14,009 posts

312 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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V8 FOU said:
Errr..... What? What next? BMW makes an assault on Le Mans under the Mini badge (Hmm been done on the Dakar)
How about resurecting the Reliant "brand" on an Ascari or whatever? Del Boy does Le Mans..
Hmm, slightly different MINI are an integral part of BMW
...and as for somewhat snide 'been done on the Dakar', MINI (or Beemer if you want to be that way)
it did produce real results, they did take 5 of the first 10 places, inc 1st 2nd and 4th!

Vocal Minority

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181 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Dimski

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228 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Vocal Minority said:
Aren't the different responses in the two threads interesting...

threespires

4,465 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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phillpot said:
Whatever next...TVR badge on a Porsche ?
And when Jaguar last won Le Mans, how much of it was Jaguar ?
And when Bentley last won Le Mans, how much of it was Bentley ?
And when Red Bull Infinity won F1, how much of it was Infinity ?

How much of a Morgan is Morgan ?
Engine / Drive train / Chassis ? All made in Germany.

How much of a Mini Countryman is Mini ?
Body made in Austria / Peugeot engine

Phillpot - how times have changed.

sa_20v

4,112 posts

260 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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It does seem a little odd to just attach a badge. frown

Whether a Morgan fan or not, 'Morgan at Le Mans' by David Dowse is well worth a read. It's about a 'real' Morgan (Aero 8) battling to prepare and race at Le Mans in 2004. It is the kind of book you just can't put down.

only1ian

736 posts

223 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Looks like we will have le mans racing wood... OAK meets ASH!

Shewie

560 posts

219 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Roadster25 said:
andy_roe said:
Yes, and part of the deal was to replace all the carbon fibre bits of the car with wood....
Although presumably not with ash in this case...biggrin
Like what you did there....

Fearless Egbert

3,147 posts

247 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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So it's just another sponsorship deal?

phillpot

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17,508 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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threespires said:
Phillpot - how times have changed.
Yes, and the Ford GT40 was really a Lola and..........

well at least my TVR is 100% TVR biggrin

The Angry Gopher

336 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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threespires said:
Sensible stuff
Good to see the brand back at Le Mans. No different to Lola developing the chassis for Aston Martin. Most Le Mans constructors work with a technical partner.

robmlufc

5,229 posts

215 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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The Angry Gopher said:
Good to see the brand back at Le Mans. No different to Lola developing the chassis for Aston Martin. Most Le Mans constructors work with a technical partner.
I agree, it was great stuff when Bentley were winning ten years ago. No reason to support this Morgan any differant!

aerospoke

364 posts

259 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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phillpot said:
Yes, and the Ford GT40 was really a Lola and..........

well at least my TVR is 100% TVR biggrin
Do you have a S6 fitted in your TVR or the "original engine? wink


SAndals

170 posts

203 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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And when Red Bull Infinity won F1, how much of it was Infinity ?


Thought it was Red Bull Racing and Renault that won F1 - and it was their engine?

Infiniti provided £8M+ sponsonship and the stickers - and overpriced ugly Nissan stickers they were too!

But as Renault own around 25% of Nissan it's far too direct a connection for this level of debate!