New dampers vs. old dampers- Performance?
New dampers vs. old dampers- Performance?
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carreauchompeur

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18,301 posts

227 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Folks,

I am shortly to change the springs on my M3- A previous muppet owner had cut them and the ride has severely suffered as a result.

I have priced up some replacements, including the option of shock replacement.

Assuming the shocks are not specifically damaged/leaking, is there a massive difference in feel/performance between new shocks and ones which have done 50-100k miles? I am definitely replacing the springs- Is it the shock or spring, or both, which gets baggy over time?

The "new" shocks are not massively expensive but if there is no likely benefit it's not worth doing.

Cheers!

EDLT

15,421 posts

229 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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As dampers age they become less effective without showing any obvious wear from the outside. When they get really bad the car will start bouncing over bumps.

If they've done 50-100k then they are probably on their way out, whether you'll notice or not depends on how hard you drive it.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

232 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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How many miles has it done?
50-100k is a big spread, they could be fine at one end of that spread or totally shot at the other.

trickywoo

13,603 posts

253 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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I'd definately be fitting new dampers in your situation.

Fox-

13,524 posts

269 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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I changed my dampers at 150k miles when one of them began leaking after the aluminum had been pierced following 2 years of rubbing from a badly placed fuel filler breather.

I was dissapointed not to experience some sort of night and day difference after I'd done this. I went for brand new OEM M Sport II spec dampers as well and it didnt feel much difference, I was under the impression my dampers would have been shot at 5 years/150k miles as well.

I mean the car never felt anything other than poised before I replaced them but even so..

aka_kerrly

12,498 posts

233 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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trickywoo said:
I'd definately be fitting new dampers in your situation.
THIS

Ideally you buy a set of shocks and springs that have been designed to work together.

davepoth

29,395 posts

222 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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If the springs were cut the dampers will have taken a load of abuse. Definitely worth doing, especially since they'll need to be pulled off the car to change the springs anyway (at the front at least)

Great Pretender

26,140 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Fox- said:
I changed my dampers at 150k miles when one of them began leaking after the aluminum had been pierced following 2 years of rubbing from a badly placed fuel filler breather.

I was dissapointed not to experience some sort of night and day difference after I'd done this. I went for brand new OEM M Sport II spec dampers as well and it didnt feel much difference, I was under the impression my dampers would have been shot at 5 years/150k miles as well.

I mean the car never felt anything other than poised before I replaced them but even so..
E39?


Fox-

13,524 posts

269 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Yea.

kambites

70,737 posts

244 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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If they're not expensive, I'd probably replace the dampers while I had the units off the car if they're that old.

The answer to the question though is that it's impossible to say - some dampers seem to still work flawlessly after 100k miles, some a worn out after 40k. Depends on driving style, damper design and construction, and not a small amount of luck.

Great Pretender

26,140 posts

237 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Fox- said:
Yea.
Thought so.

The dampers on mine are still doing their thang at almost 90k miles.

I give thanks daily to the chap who signed off the damper specs for the E39 and the chap responsible for procuring them.

ghibbett

1,907 posts

208 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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As said above, the current dampers would have been getting an extra workout with the cut springs (shorter springs = increased spring rate = increased workload for the damper). Aside from cost, I cannot see any downsides to fitting new dampers.

carreauchompeur

Original Poster:

18,301 posts

227 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Probably worth doing then. Not going to have any real impact on labour costs and £370 for a set of OEM spec dampers. Will probably have a good effect on handling, ride...

buggalugs

9,269 posts

260 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Yeah, by the time you've taken the strut and top mount off it's no extra work to change the damper. And if you don't they'll all start leaking a week later as sod's law kicks in!

Ps, new top mounts are cheap too wink

Denis O

2,141 posts

266 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Recently had new rear gas shocks on my Defender as before it was like driving a leaf sprung, no shocks vehicle.

It was a huge difference and my fillings have now stopped fling out.

The car was on 64k miles at the change but I would guess a Defenders shocks take a bit more pounding than a BMW.