Let me aware you on whats going on in US - Huge implications
Let me aware you on whats going on in US - Huge implications
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Tyson1980

Original Poster:

712 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Wikipedia, Google, Twitter, Facebook, BoingBoing have already started to protest against the act. Wikipedia have gone "blackout" for 24 hours.

Currently they are trying to pass 2 bills called SOPA and PIPA. Something similar to these could be passed on these shore no doubt...

SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act)

PIPA (Personal Information Protection Act)

SOPA Cliffs for the unaware:

- illegal to host and link any copyright or 3rd party content on your site
- all porn/free online movies/music downloading/watching ppv's online gone
- any copyright videos on youtube gone
- can't mention any copyright info without permission (big deal for wikipedia & social media sites)
- you face fines/imprisonment if you do not follow

No doubt this is will infringe free rights and they are trying to police the internet. Look at what happened in the "Arab Spring", people organised themselves via Facebook and so on...

I'm speechless to be honest. No more fking porn...


randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Tyson1980 said:
- illegal to host and link any copyright or 3rd party content on your site
- all porn/free online movies/music downloading/watching ppv's online gone
- any copyright videos on youtube gone
- can't mention any copyright info without permission (big deal for wikipedia & social media sites)
- you face fines/imprisonment if you do not follow
Admirable that the big Internet firms are protesting before digging into the putrsecent pot of Washington lobbyists, but:
- first point seems not wholly unreasonable, given the current legal position of "it wasn't me, it was the naughty users" from sites like TPB etc.
- nah, doubt porn will disappear - you might have to pay for content. Free online movies - ah, you mean IP theft. Music downloading will continue in its many legal forms. Watching PPVs will continue, as long as you actually PPV.
- Copyright vids on Youtube will continue to appear, but will be there with permissions
- What does this actually mean?
- Erm, yeah, that's kind of the point of a law, isn't it?

As stated elsewhere on here, tech lawyers pockets are deeper than Hollywoods, so it will not appear in its current form. Reasonable to protest a little, but not by posting teenage girls crying, and then making noises that sound remarkably like "wah, all my free stuff is belong to them"

Tyson1980

Original Poster:

712 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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randlemarcus said:
Admirable that the big Internet firms are protesting before digging into the putrsecent pot of Washington lobbyists, but:
- first point seems not wholly unreasonable, given the current legal position of "it wasn't me, it was the naughty users" from sites like TPB etc.
- nah, doubt porn will disappear - you might have to pay for content. Free online movies - ah, you mean IP theft. Music downloading will continue in its many legal forms. Watching PPVs will continue, as long as you actually PPV.
- Copyright vids on Youtube will continue to appear, but will be there with permissions
- What does this actually mean?
- Erm, yeah, that's kind of the point of a law, isn't it?

As stated elsewhere on here, tech lawyers pockets are deeper than Hollywoods, so it will not appear in its current form. Reasonable to protest a little, but not by posting teenage girls crying, and then making noises that sound remarkably like "wah, all my free stuff is belong to them"
Typical response i would expect here...

Well i for one could care less for copyright...the whole point of the internet is freedom of speech and not censorship.



Edited by Tyson1980 on Wednesday 18th January 13:58

Adenauer

18,982 posts

267 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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I'm awared, and feel a lot better for it, thanks, OP thumbup

Pixel Pusher

10,423 posts

190 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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doogz said:
Please, aware me. laugh
They already be aware here. wink

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

GTIR

24,741 posts

297 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Tyson1980 said:
randlemarcus said:
Admirable that the big Internet firms are protesting before digging into the putrsecent pot of Washington lobbyists, but:
- first point seems not wholly unreasonable, given the current legal position of "it wasn't me, it was the naughty users" from sites like TPB etc.
- nah, doubt porn will disappear - you might have to pay for content. Free online movies - ah, you mean IP theft. Music downloading will continue in its many legal forms. Watching PPVs will continue, as long as you actually PPV.
- Copyright vids on Youtube will continue to appear, but will be there with permissions
- What does this actually mean?
- Erm, yeah, that's kind of the point of a law, isn't it?

As stated elsewhere on here, tech lawyers pockets are deeper than Hollywoods, so it will not appear in its current form. Reasonable to protest a little, but not by posting teenage girls crying, and then making noises that sound remarkably like "wah, all my free stuff is belong to them"
Well i for one could care less for copyright...
You could care less but you won't - can't be bothered - or you could care less and you do?

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

219 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Tyson1980 said:
randlemarcus said:
Admirable that the big Internet firms are protesting before digging into the putrsecent pot of Washington lobbyists, but:
- first point seems not wholly unreasonable, given the current legal position of "it wasn't me, it was the naughty users" from sites like TPB etc.
- nah, doubt porn will disappear - you might have to pay for content. Free online movies - ah, you mean IP theft. Music downloading will continue in its many legal forms. Watching PPVs will continue, as long as you actually PPV.
- Copyright vids on Youtube will continue to appear, but will be there with permissions
- What does this actually mean?
- Erm, yeah, that's kind of the point of a law, isn't it?

As stated elsewhere on here, tech lawyers pockets are deeper than Hollywoods, so it will not appear in its current form. Reasonable to protest a little, but not by posting teenage girls crying, and then making noises that sound remarkably like "wah, all my free stuff is belong to them"
Well i for one could care less for copyright...
You clearly don't work in a creative field that is easily ripped off then do you? Why should you get the benefit of other people's efforts without paying for it? Or is it that you think the music stars/movie studios make enough to justify you getting your share for free? What about the up and coming musicians or authors who only sell a few hundred copies?

Or888t

1,686 posts

204 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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I've been reading articals on it, all day. Crazy stuff.
Seams it won't go ahead in it's current form.
Wikipedia MUST survive, it's just amassed human knowledge which has taken millions of hours to document, we can't have such a act shutting such a enterprise down.
No porn confused 1st time I've heard that mentioned...

TheD

3,144 posts

230 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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I feel it is easy for others to undermine the OP, but I really do feel that this will produce a much stronger undercurrent. The more that is taken the less true freedom we are likely to have in the future.

TankRizzo

8,029 posts

224 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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COULDN'T care less.

COULDN'T.







JESUS.

Adenauer

18,982 posts

267 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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MAKE YOU AWARE YOU

AWARE YOU










Jesus

Jandywa

1,129 posts

182 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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doogz said:
Please, aware me. laugh
biglaugh

Soovy

35,829 posts

302 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Tyson1980 said:
Typical response i would expect here...

Well i for one could care less for copyright...
You ignoramus.

Why should you be entitled to use the work of others without paying for it. You're a disgrace and a typical example of the "L'Oreal Generation" - you think you're worth it. You're not.

If you want to watch a film, then pay to watch it.

If you want to listen to music, then pay to listen to it.




You're entitled to NOTHING for free. Take take take.



Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

201 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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I am awared too. Thanks.

JonnyFive

29,904 posts

220 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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No pr0n?

I'm going to go on strike until pr0n is free again.

normalbloke

8,984 posts

250 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Soovy said:
You ignoramus.

Why should you be entitled to use the work of others without paying for it. You're a disgrace and a typical example of the "L'Oreal Generation" - you think you're worth it. You're not.

If you want to watch a film, then pay to watch it.

If you want to listen to music, then pay to listen to it.

He said he "could"......




You're entitled to NOTHING for free. Take take take.

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Tyson1980 said:
the whole point of the internet is freedom of speech and not censorship.
Wherever do you get that idea....?

And how on earth does the right to freedom of speech (putting to one side that there is not actually any such enshrined right in English law....) entitle you to avoid having to pay for material that would otherwise incur a fee to be viewed/listened to?

Yet again, I find myself in agreement with my learned friend Soov LJ.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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I'll be thoroughly unawaring myself later.

will_

6,035 posts

234 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Lurking Lawyer said:
Soov LJ.
Could you imagine what that would cause hehe

Anyway, I'm now awared too.

Soovy

35,829 posts

302 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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will_ said:
Lurking Lawyer said:
Soov LJ.
Could you imagine what that would cause hehe

Anyway, I'm now awared too.
I see both my fellow Court of Appeal Judges concur.