Mark Whalberg

[dibbers006]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 18 December 2023 at 10:10

[Digga]

dibbers006 said:

Utter bellend

Quite.

Had people realised they were to be part of a suicide mission - as passengers on the later planes most certainly did - there may have been more fight, but given that (thankfully) none of us was actually there, we cannot possibly comment on what actually took place or how we might have changed it.

We can speculate, but that's different to asserting we'd surely have changed the outcome.

[EDLT]

When I've seen interviews with him he comes across as the sort of person that struggles to tell the difference between real life and TV. This problem can only be made worse by his job as an actor a person who stands in front of cameras.

[Justayellowbadge]

Hollywood actor has over inflated opinion of himself and is a bit dim.

In other words, results of a major survey into the defecation habits of ursines to be published.

[KB_S1]

doogz said:

Isn't he the racist prick that beat a man nearly to death with a bat and left him blind?

Not that that's relevant here, just that my opinion of him was pretty low in the first place.

Hadn't heard that before. Need to do some digging now.

This plane thing, it is the sort of talk that goes on between people in pubs (and on here) all the time.
Not wise to say it in front of a journalist though.
I suspect the context was more a case of the journo asking him about his feelings since he was supposed to be on that plane with his child.
The protective parent angle would have been played.

[KB_S1]

Just reading some of that stuff.

45 days for that assault!

[Oakey]

"Say Hi to your mother for me"

http://www.maniacworld.com/Mark-Wahlberg-vs-Andy-S...

Edited by Oakey on Thursday 19th January 12:09

[Frankeh]

In hindsight it's easy to say that since the two options are:

1) Fight and risk injury/death.

2) Die for sure.

Back then there was a 3rd option of cooperate and everything will turn out fine. I'm wondering if a plane hijack is even possible nowadays. 10 men max vs the other hundred or so on a plane. Even with knives/guns they're going to have a hell of a time attempting a hijack when everyone knows the alternative to not fighting back is dying.

[BMWBen]

Oakey said:

"Say Hi to your mother for me"

http://www.maniacworld.com/Mark-Wahlberg-vs-Andy-S...

Edited by Oakey on Thursday 19th January 12:09

"Bit of a tt" doesn't come close does it...

[johnfm]

Heh at this entire thread.

1. His comments were a bit odd, but storm in a teacup in reality.

2. Holding his violent actions as 15 year old is a bit much. Newsflash - kids who grow up in rough, poor neighbourhoods are often violent.

[MX7]

Actors talk out of their backside?!!

It's a shame, as I think he's quite a good actor.

[XB70]

Frankeh said:

In hindsight it's easy to say that since the two options are:

1) Fight and risk injury/death.

2) Die for sure.

Back then there was a 3rd option of cooperate and everything will turn out fine. I'm wondering if a plane hijack is even possible nowadays. 10 men max vs the other hundred or so on a plane. Even with knives/guns they're going to have a hell of a time attempting a hijack when everyone knows the alternative to not fighting back is dying.

I think this is exactly the point. 9/11 means that, for any hijacking, the presumption is no longer that if we are compliant and sit quietly, all will be well and we will be relased as we are merely hostages to be used as pawns in negotations. The passengers on the 9/11 flights were of no interest to the hijackers who were solely interested in control of the aircraft for one purpose only.

The chances of them getting into the cockpit are extraordinarily low and I am guessing that flight crew will now no longer open the door under any circumstances, even if passengers are being killed in the cabin, but rather will be pointing the nose down in a very very fast descent to the nearest airport.

From the flight crew's perspective, the second the flight deck is breached it more likely than not that the airliner will be shot down so the greatest chance of survival for all onboard is to land it with the cockpit secure.

That leaves it up to the passengers to deal with whatever is happening in the cabin and I think someone standing up shouting "I have a bomb, stay in your seats" would actually result in them being attacked en masse and beaten senseless. The passengers no longer have anything to lose by fighting back and instead are likely to see most of them survive rather than all die.

[Digga]

XB70 said:

That leaves it up to the passengers to deal with whatever is happening in the cabin...

Which makes it difficult to undesrtand why they have banned us from taking anything sharper than a plastic spork on board.

[XB70]

Digga said:

hich makes it difficult to undesrtand why they have banned us from taking anything sharper than a plastic spork on board.

True, but next time you are on a plane, have a look at the drinks trolley and what is on it. Particularly the soft-drink cans...

[carmonk]

johnfm said:

2. Holding his violent actions as 15 year old is a bit much. Newsflash - kids who grow up in rough, poor neighbourhoods are often violent.

Rubbish.

[Digga]

carmonk said:

johnfm said:

2. Holding his violent actions as 15 year old is a bit much. Newsflash - kids who grow up in rough, poor neighbourhoods are often violent.

Rubbish.

Really?

It's often a case of fight back or be bullied, which can then evolve into a more casual attitude to violence.

[onesickpuppy]

XB70 said:

True, but next time you are on a plane, have a look at the drinks trolley and what is on it. Particularly the soft-drink cans...

???

[Targarama]

onesickpuppy said:

???

I think he means if you rip a can apart you have a very good weapon. Or how about a glass bottle?

Notice how terrorists in first class get a better choice of weapons?

[deckster]

Digga said:

carmonk said:

johnfm said:

2. Holding his violent actions as 15 year old is a bit much. Newsflash - kids who grow up in rough, poor neighbourhoods are often violent.

Rubbish.

Really?

It's often a case of fight back or be bullied, which can then evolve into a more casual attitude to violence.

Of course, silly us. It's not his fault that he nearly beat two people to death, it's society's fault. Odd then how billions of people from all kinds of background can go their whole lives and not assault a single person.

[BMWBen]

Targarama said:

onesickpuppy said:

???

I think he means if you rip a can apart you have a very good weapon. Or how about a glass bottle?

Notice how terrorists in first class get a better choice of weapons?

Glass bottle isn't a great weapon if the opponent is well trained. But better than nothing I guess. Best bet would just be strength in numbers. If everyone goes for someone at once they don't stand a chance no matter how many weapons they have.