One cheap Vanquish !

One cheap Vanquish !

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Wobbly

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550 posts

174 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Seem like a lot of car for the money.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte...

michael gould

5,691 posts

242 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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well i note the seller makes no reference to the cars condition......i also note its had 7 owners......if it needs a new clutch and some gearbox work then its not hard to spend 6 or 7k on it......not so cheap then.....but it does look nice.....i would love one but i'm not brave enough

IanDH

113 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Why would you auction it? Surely a fixed price £17 'classified with best offer' item priced at £38k would have been better. What would eBay's charges be on a £35k auction?

mcm66

240 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Been there, done it, crashed it, now not very brave either. Lost my nerve somewhat and finding myself hesitating, and it's really annoying! Think I need to take a driving course when my wrist is stronger (not related to crash) to get the feel for DB9.
Back to topic, I agree, cracking deal if mechanically sound, I still miss the exhaust note. The DB9, even with performance exhaust, isn't as infectious.

BingoBob

1,098 posts

148 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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mcm66 said:
Been there, done it, crashed it
Were you one of the 6 previous owners then? :P

V8LM

5,174 posts

210 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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I was told the other day a story of a chap who had bought an early Vanquish from a reasonably well-known car dealer, only to be presented with a 50k estimate to put right when he took it somewhere else for some work.

Caveat emptor.

yeti

10,523 posts

276 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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He says excellent condition and FSH. Negotiating a service would e very nice, wonder if there is the option of a PPI?

50k miles, 6 owners, it's not a garage queen it's a well used Aston. I'd say the price is right if he needs to sell quickly for cash in this market.

Lovely colours too smile

3200gt

2,727 posts

225 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Anyone considering it without a PPI should be a fully paid up member of the monster raving looney party. I'd also want to speak to the dealer who last serviced it to see if there were any advisories last time it was in. Then and only then would I bother to go see it.
It could be a great deal or a money pit, without knowing which who's likely to buy it from ebay without a warranty?

Edited by 3200gt on Thursday 19th January 16:54

Dave_ITR

834 posts

198 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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The price seems about right & I wouldn't let the amount of owners put me off providing it has been well maintained.

I know somebody who just sold a black Vanquish with black leather for not a huge amount more than that & this was a 40,000 miler which had just had 7k spent on it at AM.

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Found it:

http://www.aston.co.uk/carsales_index/php/action/d...

if you want to know more:

"For more information, please contact our sales team on: +44 (0)1207 233 525"


Edited by M@H on Thursday 19th January 19:33

Neil1300R

5,487 posts

179 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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no such thing as a cheap vanquish
money pit, avoid
have been looking at Vanquish prices for 6 months or more. That car could need 30k+ worth of remedial / upgrade work.

M@H

11,296 posts

273 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Neil, would you mind breaking the £30k down a bit? (I guess a minor hit will be coil packs and plugs for a couple of £k)

Neil1300R

5,487 posts

179 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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£30k was a bit of a guess (have been drinking most of the day!)
Could have lots of (bi-metallic) corrision. Best place is AMOC for more info on this.
Gearbox upgrades, sensors etc, can be the thick end of £20k+.
suspension mods and brake upgrades will add to it.
If you are seriously considering a Vanquish, look at the Vanquish S, has all the gearbox upgrades, brakes, suspension etc etc. Yess they are £30k + more than the cheapest Vanquish, but there is a reason. There are some good non S Vanquish out there but caveat emptor.
Check what has been done, not just service stamps in the book. Post 2006 Vanquish S also have much improved consoles.
AMOC has better info on the Vanquish than Pistonheads. Knowledge on Gaydon era cars is better on PH than AMOC

ScottB

22 posts

217 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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I'd be interested to know the number of people claiming to know about the cost of running a Vanquish who have actually owned one...

Anyway, I've run an '03 Vanquish for the best part of three years. I average about 7k a year, so certainly no garage queen. There isn't much doubt that a Vanquish requires more TLC than a DB9/Vantage of comparable value. And the cost of certain parts can be prohibitive. However taking into account the much slower depreciation compared to a DB9/Vantage I've found the overall cost of ownership fairly similar even taking into account the mileage I do.

As far as the Vanquish vs Vanquish S debate goes, I personally didn't find the difference in performance could justify the big price difference. Plus as I intended to do a reasonable amount of mileage the standard Vanquish made more financial sense. I actually prefer the original lines of the standard Vanquish without the ducktail and the front splitter which don't sit quite right for me.

I should also point out that the very costly gearbox upgrade that keeps getting referred to is in fact one of the cheaper upgrades you can get for the Vanquish. This is the upgrade to the actuators on the gearbox which makes a huge difference to the driveability and costs about £2k. What is equally important is getting the gearbox setup properly. This also makes a huge difference to the driveability.

However, personally I'd say the key to enjoying Vanquish ownership is to get it looked after by the right people. It's a complicated machine that requires specialist knowledge. I had some very bad experiences from independents that were recommended here and proclaimed to know how to service a Vanquish but clearly didn't. The only person I would trust with a Vanquish is Mike at Bamford Rose. So I think if you really want a balanced view on the ins/outs of Vanquish ownership then give Mike a call - no connection other than being a happy customer.


V8LM

5,174 posts

210 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Biggest problem, other than the early gearbox sensors and spigot bearing, with Vanquish are the sub-frames. These have been likened to those of a Triumph Spitfire, and are a good 40k to sort. Cosmetically, many early cars I've seen are showing corrosion at the edges of the wings. Wheel nuts seizing are also common, requiring drilling out and often leading to new hubs.

Inspect, inspect, then inspect some more. This requires a specialist, a ramp, and a cooperative seller.

Wobbly

Original Poster:

550 posts

174 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Well someone thought it was worth it, it's now sold.

3200gt

2,727 posts

225 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Nope, relisted. Although it says sold? presumably he's going to pick up the fleabay fees even though he effectively sold it to himself?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIte...


Edited by 3200gt on Friday 20th January 17:16

Wobbly

Original Poster:

550 posts

174 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Oops, sorry I stand corrected.

S1M VP

949 posts

235 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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Neil1300R said:
no such thing as a cheap vanquish
money pit, avoid
have been looking at Vanquish prices for 6 months or more. That car could need 30k+ worth of remedial / upgrade work.
Neil, have you owned a vanquish to make such a bold sweeping statement?

My car is an 03 car and had the spigot bearing and upgraded magnetic gearbox sensors done before I bought the car, which whilst a bonus, would have only cost £2-3k if and when it went anyway.
My car also had a fully recon gearbox for £7k ... But this is no way £30k's worth of work.

As said by the other owner, they aren't cheap, but they are nothing like people have heard (probably from someone who has heard, from someone else, who has never owned one).

AMOC forum is certainly a good place to start research though and has some really good guys who don't mind sharing their extensive knowledge.